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Rotating Magnetic Field's and Inductors.

Started by tinman, December 14, 2015, 09:08:53 AM

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MileHigh

Brad:

Me:  Take a look at the two attached scope shots that I modified, which one has the larger area under the curve?

You:  The scope shot taken without the rotor. But why do you think that is MH-->it's because there was a higher current draw with the rotor removed.

You take a look again.  I said modified scope shots.  I added the blue rectangles on the right side of each pulse so that you would only be looking at the dark area under the curve for each pulse.

verpies

Quote from: tinman on December 16, 2015, 05:49:50 AM
Yes Verpies--that is how it is.
...and how are your scope probes connected to this circuit ?

For example:
Ch1 --> point B
G1   --> point C
Ch2 --> GND
G2   --> point C

MileHigh

Quote from: webby1 on December 16, 2015, 02:18:31 PM
Do me a flavor and read post 28,, then get on the correct video that was done to "fix" the error you are hounding on.

When does adding a load reduce the cost?

Yes, I agree.  Look at post #28 (image attached) and you can see exactly the same thing that I am highlighting in my original screen captures.  The average current in the no-rotor case is higher because it rises faster.  You can see it as plain as day so there was no point in doing the work to mark up another set of screen captures.

One more time, you are asking the wrong question.

The question should be, "When does not adding a load increase the cost?"

That is the real question, and if you fail to realize what the real question is and try to answer the wrong question instead then you end up leading yourself down a garden path.  And the con artists know this and the art of deception and deflection is already 3/4 done for them by a willing audience that wants to believe.

Answering the real question properly as has already been done clearly shows that the magnets are doing nothing.  The magnets are just passive dead-as-a-doornail components being pushed around by the coil which is being energized by the battery.

How many times have you seen clips where people add a load and the power consumption goes down?  The answer is that we have all seen it hundreds of times with too many experiments to mention.  You have to work on understanding electronics to explain why instead of just blindly believing that "magnets are magic and they are adding power to the system."

Taking another example, this is just a variation on seeing your source battery voltage increase while you run your experiment and convincing yourself that "power is being returned to the battery" when the circuit doesn't even have a means to return power to the battery.  I remember seeing that in the old days all the time but now people are wiser.

EMJunkie

Quote from: MileHigh on December 16, 2015, 03:02:42 PM
Yes, I agree.  Look at post #28 (image attached) and you can see exactly the same thing that I am highlighting in my original screen captures.  The average current in the no-rotor case is higher because it rises faster.  You can see it as plain as day so there was no point in doing the work to mark up another set of screen captures.

One more time, you are asking the wrong question.

The question should be, "Why does not adding a load increase the cost?"

That is the real question, and if you fail to realize what the real question is and try to answer the wrong question instead then you end up leading yourself down a garden path.  And the con artists know this and the art of deception and deflection is already 3/4 done for them by a willing audience that wants to believe.

This is just a variation on seeing your source battery voltage increase while you run your experiment and convincing yourself that "power is being returned to the battery" when the circuit doesn't even have a means to return power to the battery.  I remember seeing that in the old days all the time but now people are wiser.




OOOOOHHHHHHHhhhhhhh the Drivel....

Why is the Voltage on the yellow Trace got this funny squiggly bit from one to the other Capture, what could this funny squiggly bit be I wonder?????

In 1831 Michael Faraday discovered Induction, MileHigh still has not discovered it!!!!! You driveling old Git!!!!

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