Rotating Magnetic Field's and Inductors.

[MileHigh]

Brad:

At this point you are going to have to figure things out for yourself or others will have to chime in and have the debate with you.  You are asking some questions that you should already know the answers to.

>>> in fact,the measuring equipment says less work is being done,and yet on the output side,our equipment says more work is being done.

You seem to be completely ignoring the resistive losses - waste heat.  This has been discussed over and over and I didn't include it in my summary because it should be obvious and implicit.

Anybody is welcome to challenge what I am stating if they disagree, or join the debate and challenge the challengers if they agree.  For myself personally, I think that I am done here.

If you are an avid pulse motor builder and following this thread, you owe it to yourself to understand the electrical and mechanical energy dynamics of your pulse motor builds.  Sometimes things seem to be the opposite of what you think they should be and you should understand the whys and the hows when this happens instead of just making observations and reporting what you observed.

MileHigh

[tinman]

Brad:

At this point you are going to have to figure things out for yourself or others will have to chime in and have the debate with you.  You are asking some questions that you should already know the answers to.

>>> in fact,the measuring equipment says less work is being done,and yet on the output side,our equipment says more work is being done.



Anybody is welcome to challenge what I am stating if they disagree, or join the debate and challenge the challengers if they agree.  For myself personally, I think that I am done here.

If you are an avid pulse motor builder and following this thread, you owe it to yourself to understand the electrical and mechanical energy dynamics of your pulse motor builds.  Sometimes things seem to be the opposite of what you think they should be and you should understand the whys and the hows when this happens instead of just making observations and reporting what you observed.

MileHigh

You seem to be completely ignoring the resistive losses - waste heat.  This has been discussed over and over and I didn't include it in my summary because it should be obvious and implicit.

I often wonder MH,if you actually read the whole of my posts

Quote from second paragraph in last reply
Quote: What if i were to place a temp probe into the core,and i take temperature readings with and without the rotor in play. What situation would produce more heat in the core of the coil-with or without the rotor?.

Quote from last paragraph from last post
Quote: I will even go to the trouble of making a new core out of laminated transformer steel(seems to be better than the steel rods),and putting a temp probe in the core,and we can have a look at core temperature as well.


Brad

[MileHigh]

I wonder too Brad.  Did I say anything about the temperature of the cores at any time in this discussion?  Who says that I was making any kind of reference to the heating of the cores when I talked about waste heat, because I wasn't.  You don't need to develop a method to measure the waste heat when you know it is there and you can use your DSO.  Do you think that you can just shift gears and manufacture a connection of convenience to make it look like I am missing something?

Instead of being dismissive of what I said in the other thread you should have asked questions and made an attempt to understand it first.  Have the debate with somebody else because I am done.

[tinman]

I wonder too Brad.  Did I say anything about the temperature of the cores at any time in this discussion?  Who says that I was making any kind of reference to the heating of the cores when I talked about waste heat, because I wasn't.  You don't need to develop a method to measure the waste heat when you know it is there and you can use your DSO.  Do you think that you can just shift gears and manufacture a connection of convenience to make it look like I am missing something?

Instead of being dismissive of what I said in the other thread you should have asked questions and made an attempt to understand it first.  Have the debate with somebody else because I am done.

MH

I am making every attempt to see what is happening here,and what i am doing about temperature measurements is what i should be doing. If the power consumption go's down,and the power output remains the same.or go's up,and the heat also remains the same or go's up,then we know it is not resistive losses-waste heat that is the reason for the increase in P/in when the rotor is not in play. If the waste heat(coil temperature) amount rises when the rotor is removed,then we know that it was the magnets that were the cause of waste heat being reduced,and thus P/in being reduced.

So what then MH-->what if the temperature of the coil drop's without the rotor,but the P/in increases at the same time?.

Well,lets see how we go,and there is no need to have a dummy spit,and take your bat and ball,and run off just because i will not take your word for what is happening here-->that is not the scientific method-as some one has told you before.


Brad

[tinman]

The results of the heat dissipation test-with and without rotor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0d6tb67oLM


Brad