Study of Generator Coil Acceleration Under Load (moderated)

[ramset]

The patent office .?
Never give a man a stick to beat you with !

Respectfully
Chet

[MileHigh]

This can be done using  a small amount of power from an external source providing voltage while the coil itself will add the amperage resulting a magnification process.

It simply doesn't work like that and there is no "magnification process" taking place.  Plus the language being used does not make sense, coils don't "add amperage."

Every one of these setups needs to be evaluated on a case by case basis.  There is no generic "advice" on how to see a rotor increase in speed when the configuration is changed.

And "configuration is changed" is the key phrase.  I make a change to my system by adding a load.  Therefore there are two configurations to analyze, without the load and with the load.  All off the voltages and currents need to be measured and a complete power audit has to be done for each configuration, never forgetting to account for the waste heat.  Countless times experimenters have been thrown off and they confuse "increased output" for what is really less waste heat.

If you really want to understand a setup then you should construct a timing diagram with as much information as possible incorporated in the timing diagram.  All of the answers explaining the how and why and when of the setup are revealed in the timing diagram.

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MH

Sorry, but I think you are beginning to wander far off course.   What possible connection does a composite video signal have to do with a coil causing or allowing a rotor to accelerate under a load?

Carroll

[MileHigh]

It's just an example of a timing diagram for illustrative purposes.

I found a more interesting timing diagram showing an operating mode for a 555 timer.  A picture is worth a thousand words and the timing diagram for the 555 timer in conjunction with a schematic and a text description provides the reader with a complete understanding of what is going on.  A pulse motor is typically more complicated than a 555 timer circuit and therefore you need a timing diagram, schematic, and text description to understand what is going on.

[wattsup]

@gotoluc

Son of a gun. I just saw this thread and your video. hahahahaha Life is just so great sometimes when things just start falling into place.

Here is what I think needs to done next.

To simplify things, since the coil is showing an AC sine wave maybe consider just using a small rheostat and a bulb instead of your resistors. That will give you infinite load adjustment.

What you really want to know here is what is going on in that sliding coil. Taking a differential reading is like calling New York, then calling Los Angeles and then saying "I know what's happening in the USA". Very deceiving.

What we need to see is what is happening on each added layer of that coil. We think that the core to coil impress is making "electrons flow" (using regular terms here for now) through all of that coil which is a multi layer, mag wire type with tight turns and "no space between layers". I have just posted on this and such a situation I see know as producing what I call Coil Bypass. I think that is what you are seeing there.

If you can drill small holes on one side of that plastic coil spool up to the end turns of the coil and just send one pointy probe and scope it and see the difference from one layer or a few layers to the next few layers, this will give you so much more information then you ever had. hahaha

The other experiment is you take two lengths of identical wire and identical spools. You wind one length on one spool as usual, layer after layer, tight. The other you wind same way but you add a spacer between layers so the layers cannot touch each other. Then you do comparison studies of these two and this will again tell you a lot more then you knew before. Remember old transformers with paper between layers. WHY do we not see that anymore? Was is to efficient? hahaha

The point is this. There is technical process and there is reality process. We technically think the impress is "flowing" through that whole coil. But the coil really has three parts. First layer, mid layers and outer layer. The the coil has first layer starting near the magnet passage or far from the magnet passage. These are all important variables, but in most cases, regardless if you put the coil one way or the other you get the same result. WHY?? It is because the copper atoms don't care about layers. If the impulse on layer 1 can jump direct to layer 2 without going through the actual windings of layer 2, and then jump to layer 3 without going through the windings of layer 3 and so on, because there is more "resistance" in the winding of those layers then for the impulse to simple jump a few layers, this I call Coil Bypass. So I have found that pulse driven coils suffer from Half Coil Syndrome and pick up coils "may" suffer from Coil Bypass. Copper atoms are way smarter then us for now but if we can find their secrets, we will never wind coils the same way again. hehehe

The other thing is this. We need to develop a sure way to scope our devices with only the probe, while leaving the ground open to the atmosphere or connected to a floating coil of an accepted type to make the ground reference the same for all experimenters. If this can be done, then you will be able to see the direct waveform and not this damn differential wave form that says nothing but "Overall, things work like this or that". We cannot advance with overall, we need precise.

Great work as usual and sorry if this post is not the norm.

wattsup