Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT! New Video!

[avalon]

..........I found a large increase in EMF in the house and it seemed to be coming from anything that was grounded including some pipes running under the floor. 

The only emitting part in the smart meter is a module called MicroAP. It is made by Silver Spring Networks and, essentially, is a network interface card (NIC) that operates at speed of up to 300kbps for data transfer. It supports GPRS/HSPA/EVDO and 1-XRTT and uses 900 MHz NAN and 2.4 GHz HAN radio modes. What makes that particular NIC different from the any other found in, let's say your laptop, is that it can form a mesh with neighboring devices (up to 250) and provide cellular backhaul for them. I've always suspected that was the case but never knew for sure until recently.

What I do not know is the transmitting power of the MicroAP but I'll do some more digging.

~A

[gyulasun]

The only emitting part in the smart meter is a module called MicroAP. It is made by Silver Spring Networks and, essentially, is a network interface card (NIC) that operates at speed of up to 300kbps for data transfer. It supports GPRS/HSPA/EVDO and 1-XRTT and uses 900 MHz NAN and 2.4 GHz HAN radio modes. What makes that particular NIC different from the any other found in, let's say your laptop, is that it can form a mesh with neighboring devices (up to 250) and provide cellular backhaul for them. I've always suspected that was the case but never knew for sure until recently.

What I do not know is the transmitting power of the MicroAP but I'll do some more digging.

~A

Hi A Valon,

Here are the specs for the 900 MHz and 2.4 GHz bands,  in page 2:

http://www.gegridsolutions.com/products/brochures/SmartMetering/I210-SSN-MicroAP_GEA-12873.pdf

Probably the indicated power output levels are at the the transmitters output and does not include possible antenna gain (this is a guess from me).

Gyula

[MileHigh]

Good for you Avalon... I regret not understanding your prudence in this from the beginning.

I congratulate you for acknowledging your mistake and I hope that you learned a lesson.   I asked you if you ever tested a transformer on a bench and you intentionally ignored the question.  So I assume that you never did any tests like that and have little or no electronics experience.  There was direct evidence as mentioned by PicoWatt - there was a voltage drop in the mains line when the system was supposedly working showing clearly that power was flowing through the wires - but you chose to ignore that also.  You did a spin job on Avalon claiming that he was a senior researcher but I was not even aware of him before this and he only has about 150 postings.  You made a lot of claims with no evidence or logic to back them up.

Don't fall in love with a free energy proposition, just speak the truth to the best of your abilities.  If you are just a cheerleader without really thinking, it just encourages others to do the same thing.  Criminals feed on that naivete and take advantage of people.  Right now you have an old lady in Canada that wants to give $120,000 to criminal con artists that will use that money to freeload.  This is part and parcel of the free energy scene so caution is always the best course of action.

[Just..Sayin..]

I congratulate you for acknowledging your mistake and I hope that you learned a lesson.   I asked you if you ever tested a transformer on a bench and you intentionally ignored the question.  So I assume that you never did any tests like that and have little or no electronics experience.  There was direct evidence as mentioned by PicoWatt - there was a voltage drop in the mains line when the system was supposedly working showing clearly that power was flowing through the wires - but you chose to ignore that also.  You did a spin job on Avalon claiming that he was a senior researcher but I was not even aware of him before this and he only has about 150 postings.  You made a lot of claims with no evidence or logic to back them up.

Don't fall in love with a free energy proposition, just speak the truth to the best of your abilities.  If you are just a cheerleader without really thinking, it just encourages others to do the same thing.  Criminals feed on that naivete and take advantage of people.  Right now you have an old lady in Canada that wants to give $120,000 to criminal con artists that will use that money to freeload.  This is part and parcel of the free energy scene so caution is always the best course of action.

I never bothered answering your question because of your attitude...

[MileHigh]

Formatting problems - I will highlight Tinman's text in bold.

Take a look again, this stuff is all just basic nuts and bolts.
OK,so from you !basic! nuts and bolts stuff,explain in detail as to what the magnetic force is.

A lot of people are tired of hearing that.  It's a total cop out to ask that question in an accusatory manner when you can't answer it yourself.  You can look up the definitions on Google if you want to.  How about you write a 1000-word essay on what water tastes like?

That fist clip I linked to says that you can calculate the magnetic field around a moving charge everywhere in the Universe.  What more do you want?  That is just describing Nature - it's what's in the deck of cards that was dealt to us that describes the Universe that we are living in.  You should be impressed that we have figured it out.  It's just real reality.

Where are these electric charges and fields within a permanent magnet that move in a straight line? Electrons move in circles ?-->no,electrons do not move in circles.

"Electrons move in circles" is a perfectly reasonable simplification for purposes of this discussion.   You want to go argue atomic physics, find someone to take up the argument with you because it's not me.  They figured out things like the s,p,d and f electron orbitals and a whole lot of other things.  Because of that they can look at star spectra and tell you what the stars are made of.

A circle is just millions of short straight lines strung together.
It is also a dead short--no beginning,and no end.

Saying a circle is a dead short doesn't make any sense.  Go look at the first clip I linked to.

And yet this is ass about to everything else you(and most others) believe in,where as the moving electron is due to a magnetic field that changes with time. When the magnetic field dose not change with time(as with a permanent magnet),then there is no electron motion other than the electrons orbit around the protons in the atomic nucleus.


What's ass about is this phrase, "where as the moving electron is due to a magnetic field that changes with time."  It doesn't really make any sense and I am not going to "fill in the blanks" to make it make sense.  Think about what you are going to write and review your own prose before you commit to it and post it.

Magnets are magnets because trillions of spinning electrons make little micro magnets.  We know what the field produced by every micro magnet is everywhere in the Universe. The majority of the electrons that count are spinning in the same direction.  So trillions of tiny micro magnets make a macro magnet.   That's the way it is and if you refuse to believe this and have some unexplained and undefined explanation unique unto you then so be it.

I find it quite interesting that you don't believe that we went to the moon.  The moon shot was just another exercise in nuts and bolts.  I kind of understand now how you can look at a simple pulse motor that you just put together by happenstance and actually believe that you are observing something that "science can't explain."  It's more like you can't explain it and then you take this leap of logic and assume that you are in some kind of uncharted electronics territory.