Moon Walkers.

[MileHigh]

As i said-the mass equivalent in KG's on the moon  is 21.45--what part of that do you not understand?. If something weighs 21.45 kg's on the moon,it ruddy mass here on earth will be 130kg's. Is it really that hard for you to understand MH.

I can see that it's pretty much hopeless.  Did you read where I stated that equivalent kilograms weight is never used and frowned upon?  Your brain can't process the fact that you were supposed to use the term "weight" instead of "mass" in your sentence?

It is dissipated into the moon.

Yes, and the flag is planted in that moon.  But I suppose you have a bionic eye like the six million dollar man and it calculated exactly how much energy impacted onto the flag pole and you are "sure" that your bionic eye is right when it said that the flag should not shake....  You have superpowers.

Did you see any of these earth quake vibrations that were strong enough to make a flag wave,also create even the slightest vibration on the camera that the astronaut was holding ?--didnt think so.

The above is a ridiculous comparison that is completely invalid and makes no sense.  It's just another item to add to that list that I posted of crazy things that you said.

While your at it,work this one out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNWs-vlIhdM   

There is nothing to work out.

[picowatt]

PW
This explanation dose not fit the picture supplied. The photographs i supplied from the apollo mission show clear and decisive edges of each different color on each piece of tape. The examples you supplied by way of the link you posted show merging colors with undefined blurring transitions.
Below -the first picture shows the effect you are talking of,and the second picture shows the defined color differences between each piece of tape.

Point 1:  Consider the angles involved.

Point 2:  Consider the light source

[MileHigh]

Bull shit MH.
Do the astronauts look like there jumping any higher than they would on earth?.
The fact is MH,if you drop a ball that weighs 1kg here on earth from a height of 1 meter,the impact energy will be far greater than if you dropped that same ball from the same height on the moon--thats a fact MH that you cant seem to comprehend. The energy needed to lift that ball one meter here on earth is 6.5 time greater than on the moon. The energy of the impact here on earth when that ball hits the ground is then 6.5 times greater than on the moon-minus air resistive losses here on earth.

While your at it,explain as to why the astronauts and lunar vehicles motions are in slow motion-or appear to be. For what reason do they rise so slowly when they bounce around?
If i weighed say 100kg's,and i then lost say 70kg's .Would i appear to move in slow motion,or would my motion now appear faster with the weight loss.

I comprehend the ball dropping perfectly as I already indicated.  The problem is that it does not apply to my original statement.  The astronaut landed with a thud and that may have caused the flag to wave.

My thought experiment is 100% true and valid so if you are calling BS on it then you don't understand basic physics.

I think the astronauts move slowly because they are inside a pressurized suit that has an associated stiffness to it and they are carrying around a life support system that has a significant mass.

[tinman]

I comprehend the ball dropping perfectly as I already indicated.  The problem is that it does not apply to my original statement.  The astronaut landed with a thud and that may have caused the flag to wave.

My thought experiment is 100% true and valid so if you are calling BS on it then you don't understand basic physics.

I think the astronauts move slowly because they are inside a pressurized suit that has an associated stiffness to it and they are carrying around a life support system that has a significant mass.

My thought experiment is 100% true and valid so if you are calling BS on it then you don't understand basic physics.

Your thought experiment has nothing to do with your over stated weight of the astronaut and suit on the moon. My understanding of physics is fine thank you,and i have made no errors in what i have said.

Please be more precise and correct from now on,when you are explaining/referring to events on the moon. Mixing it up with factors that exist here on earth,is only a misdirection on your behalf.


Brad

[picowatt]

Here are the two reasons it can not be the ejected water from the sublimator unit.

First-in the video,we see the astronaut bouncing past the flag. We clearly see the flag waver as he just passes the flag. If it was the ejected water(now turned into extremely small ice particles due to the rapid expansion of the water mist entering an extreme vacuum hitting the flag,then the flags first motion would be away from the astronaut. As can be clearly seen in the video,the first motion of the flag is toward the astronaut. This reaction is exactly as it would be here on earth.

Second- The pump and fan you speak of is between the middle and left side of the back pack unit. The sublimator units cooling plates run across the top of the PLSS unit. The waste vent is on the right hand side of the unit. On the left side of the PLSS unit,there was provision for an extra bag/luggage storage sack. The first two pictures below show the left side of the PLSS pack,and as can be seen in the first picture,there is no waste vent on the left side. The second picture show the extra luggage sack fitted that would cover any vent. The third picture shows the vent on the right side of the PLSS unit. So this also means that it was no ejected water from the pack that makes the flag waver,as it is on the wrong side.


Brad

Tinman.

The ejected stream is not ice particles.  The water ice sublimes into a gas.  Think a flow of water molecules.

The info I provided was from recollection with discussions I had with an engineer that worked at Huntsville during Apollo.  I was curious as to how heat was dealt with in a vacuum and we spent a great deal of time looking at a photo album and discussing Apollo.  Those conversations were some 45 years ago or so.  I recall there being an opening on the left side of the hard shell for the exhaust, but at my age, it would not be the first time my recollection was in error.  I also recall the O2 bottles being at the very top of the unit.

That said, I admit to being totally unfamiliar with the outer soft shell.  Even so, I find it very hard to believe the area you point out is the exhaust for the sublimator.  That looks too small and more so like the end of a strap.

The fan in the sublimator unit acts more like a turbomolecular pump than like a fan here on Earth.  Molecules are accelerated by impact with the rotating and angled blades.

As time allows, I will try to find out more about the PLSS, particularly with regard to the soft shell lay out.

Do you have a link that indicates the area you outlined is the vent?

PW