Moon Walkers.

[Nink]

Excuse my paraphrase of your comment, but I will also not participate or condone derogatory remarks toward LRO or NASA engineers who are not here to defend themselves.

Every time the astronots were asked to "defend themselves" and swear on the bible they walked on the moon, they declined.

So how come the Astronuts won't swear on the bible they walked on the moon?  Pretty simple way to defend themselves isn't it ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAbpWaDL4Zc

[picowatt]

Every time the astronots were asked to "defend themselves" and swear on the bible they walked on the moon.

So how come the Astronuts won't swear on the bible they walked on the moon?  Pretty simple way to defend themselves isn't it ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAbpWaDL4Zc

I cannot speak for astronauts, but someone asking me to do that is in effect accusing me of being a liar, which would not go over all that well with me. 

[Nink]

I cannot speak for astronauts, but someone asking me to do that is in effect accusing me of being a liar, which would not go over all that well with me.

The first thing you are asked to do in any court no matter if you are presenting facts,  testifying for or against someone, you are asked to swear on a bible.   Swearing on the bible is not an admission of guilt.

If I walked on the moon and someone said they would give me money to donate to my favorite charity if I swore on the bible,  I would have grabbed the bible and not even hesitated.  I would not  have punched the person asking me in the face. 

 

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Because the 170-popund astronaut and the 120-pound space suit form a 290-pound "ground thumper" that hits the ground for every bounce.  That makes the ground shake, a small portion of the energy from the bounce makes the flag pole rattle.

Oh please
Is that the best you have MH ?.
Did you forget something MH?--How much did they weigh on the moon again? Didnt think that one through to well-did you. I will do the calculations for you,so as you do not have to think to hard.
170lb + 120lb x 16.5% = 47.85lb. How is your earth quake man looking now?
Now how is your power of observation MH?. Do you see the vertical or horizontal poles moving ,due to your earth quake man bouncing on past?
Poor effort MH--epic fail.

And the frustrating part is that you never even considered this possibility, just like many of the other poor hapless moon conspiracy theorists.  They desperately need that "dummies" book.

Who needs the dummies book now MH?

The answer to that one is staring you in the face.  BTW, it's "does" and "too."

Was it now?
BYW,it's 16.5% of what you would weigh here on earth,when your on the moon

How do you know it's off-the-shelf?  You don't.  You are failing to think past one step.  Are you an expert on nylon and other plastics when it comes to heat resistance and melting point?  No?  I didn't think so.  Neither am I.  Are there different formulations of nylon that have different properties including the melting point?  You don't know?  I don't know myself either.

PW posted the link that confirmed that the flag's are an !off the shelf! item,so go have this argument with him. Once your done there,go try and buy an !off the shelf! nylon flag that will survive in temperatures higher than 90*C. And of course you can get expensive high temperature nylon,but that is not what !off the shelf! flags are made from.

So we choose to be stupid and just blindly assume that regular vanilla run of the mill nylon was used for the flag.  That makes us comfortably numb.

Well it once again,dose make you look silly MH,as the person you stick by(PW),is the one that posted the confirmation link about what the flag's were--that being !off the shelf! nylon flags.
So no,i didnt blindly assume anything MH. I made an observation from a high resolution picture,and after PW did a bit of research for him self,he found that my observation was indeed correct.

It adds to the moon conspiracy.   Stay away from that "dummies" book!  We only have to think one step, and then we can just go back to sleep.

As far as step's go MH,you should take a few step's back,and go read the thread again-so as to stop your self from making more silly mistakes

Funny though, the I have heard the term "high temperature resistance plastic" before.  Hmmmm.... makes you think, but only if your mind is capable of thinking past one step.

You go by yourself one of them !off the shelf! high temperature nylon flag's MH--you go get it.

Well, you are making a fool of yourself by contradicting yourself in the question.

As we can all see MH,it is not me making a fool of myself here lol.

The question itself is a retarded moon conspiracy theorist question.  This is a failure to think:  If the flag is blown over then the descent stage must have created a blast crater.  There is no relationship at all between the flag blowing over and a possible blast crater, NONE.  Hence my satire.

I had a feeling you wouldnt answer MH,but in stead just go the !good old! retarded moon conspirator route again. But i give you a little credit for your attempted redirection,although most here will see straight through it.

For starters you don't know if there was or was not a fine layer of dust or fine damage on the foot pads and legs.

Yes i do MH.
Once again,the power of observation is a great thing.
We can safely assume that some of the ejected mass(small sharp jagged rocks traveling in excess of 3600KPH) would hit the foot pads and legs that are in this straight laminar flow in a radial pattern you mention. Do you see any damage or dust in the foot bowls,or on the legs MH in the HD pics below?.

One more time we are back to the moon conspiracy theorists' failure to think past one step.  "There is supposed to be dust on the landing pads because that's how rockets act on Earth."  One more time, this is on the level of the common sense of an astute 15-year-old that understands that the LEM is landing in a vacuum.  You can even see it when Neil Armstrong says, "kicking up some dist," all of the dust is shooting straight away in a nearly straight laminar flow.

And none is going to hit the foot pads or legs on the way past-hey MH

Well I'm calling BS on that.

Lol-really?. The only bullshit is you believing that none of the ejecta is going to hit the legs or foot pads of the lunar lander without doing any damage to either,and without any of that ejecta falling into the bowl shaped foot pads--thats BS right there MH.

I will tell you what else is a double-dose of BS:  "Somebody that disagrees with me is biased and therefore their opinions don't count."  That is a retarded statement.

And yet all the evidence above says you cannot make simple or accurate judgments based on accurate information supplied.

You have tripped up half a dozen times in your debate with PW, really "pregnant pause" displays of ignorance.  Instead of acknowledging your mistakes and/or ignorance, you just soldier on and absorb the new enlightening information without saying anything.  You may think that is the best course of action but it's not at all and just hurts your credibility.

Im calling you on this one MH,as this is an outright lie.
Please make reference to this bullshit you just posted. I have been the one providing the evidence,and the one asking the question's. It is you and PW that reply with nothing but insult's--but you can never give a straight answer. In fact,you cant even get a simple thing like how much a person and his space suit weighs on the moon correct. In fact,you were way off with the estimated weight of your earth quake man. So who is tripping up MH?--it's not me.

I saw the moon landings as a kid and the physics and geopolitics all make sense.  The "fake moon landings" is just another conspiracy cult by people that seemingly lack common sense or they suspend their common sense because they want to spin their tale because they have an agenda.  There is a conspiracy theorist cottage industry, and you can milk some decent money from the moon conspiracy.

Lol-yes,you watched it on TV--it must be real.

[picowatt]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Flag_Assembly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nylon

Nylon:
Melting point
190–350 °C