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Perpetual Mobile with compliance of the law of conservation of energy

Started by abv, February 01, 2016, 09:45:18 AM

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sm0ky2

Quote from: abv on February 05, 2016, 05:21:59 PM
What about this perpetual mobile?
Here should not be count work against air pressure:)

Provided you can keep the heat from getting to the other magnet, I see no obvious reason to disclude research along these lines.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

LibreEnergia

Quote from: abv on February 01, 2016, 09:45:18 AM
Perpetual Mobile concept. Where is the mistake here?

The mistake is that you are ignoring the second law of thermodynamics. Entropy of a closed a system always increases. A closed system will not spontaneously organise itself to greate a potential gradient be it temperature  or some other potential that can ongoingly produce work.

You talk about a closed system and then introduce the concept of it exchanging energy with another system . By definition the system is no longer closed and you must redraw the system boundaries to include what it is interacting with. If you do that then the second law always applies

abv

Quote from: LibreEnergia on February 06, 2016, 05:32:37 PM
The mistake is that you are ignoring the second law of thermodynamics. Entropy of a closed a system always increases. A closed system will not spontaneously organise itself to greate a potential gradient be it temperature  or some other potential that can ongoingly produce work.

You talk about a closed system and then introduce the concept of it exchanging energy with another system . By definition the system is no longer closed and you must redraw the system boundaries to include what it is interacting with. If you do that then the second law always applies

Thank you for answer. You're absolutely right about second thermodynamic law. I understood mistakes and I corrected the concept.
This concept is not perpetual motion machine. This concept works on difference of magnetic field of intensity. It does not violate second thermodynamic law, because an entropy stay the same. Also, it does not violate law of conservation energy, because necessary have a magnetic field. Energy should be spent to produce the magnetic field.
All details here:
https://somephysicsideas.wordpress.com/2016/02/13/entropy-engine/

abv

I added implementation of this Entropy Engine model using "drinking bird" toy. It should work on temperature of normal condition 300K.
https://somephysicsideas.wordpress.com/2016/02/13/entropy-engine/