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To prove overunity, to the skeptics on here

Started by guest1289, February 16, 2016, 08:49:57 PM

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citfta

Quote from: forumblog on February 17, 2016, 12:14:37 PM
(  I'm   guest1289,  this is my other account,   for other things I'm doing   )

   Regarding,  undulating fields between magnets, 
      I first found possible evidence for that idea from the following webpage,  http://physics.aps.org/story/v9/st30  ,   although that is between the magnetic-fields of the sun and the earth. 
   So,  to replicate the interaction between the magnetic-fields of the sun and the earth, I thought it would be logical to space two magnets sufficiently far apart,  and that there must or may  be a very specific  distance at which that could happen .
   (  of course it's possible I may have misinterpreted the above webpage too much,  because when I look at diagrams on other webpages,  of the  sun's  magnetic-field  affecting  the earths  magnetic-field,   the earth's field looks like it's in  an  aerodynamics  test,  with it's field totally blown backwards as if it were in a storm  )

   Here's my proof
   In attempts at  All-permanent-magnet-levitation  ( on youtube etc ) you can see how unstable the levitating components are,  that constant instability is supported by the mathematical-proofs  in  Earnshaw's-Theorem,  which states it is impossible to achieve stable levitation using permanent-magnets.

   Regarding  magnetic-fields  passing straight through copper,   yes,  now you have reminded me,  that is correct,    but here's the reason I got a confused about that,   it's because of what happens if you drop a  neodymium-magnet  down a copper pipe,  and how the hoverboards( containing rotating magnets ) float above copper,  although of course they are moving magnetic-fields,  but even in the copper-pipe,  and the  copper-surface for the hoverboard,  the  magnetic-fields must still pass through the copper.

   I should post this in the figueras thread, but it doesn't matter 
    If you had already achieved,  either overunity,  or a self-sustaining device( therefore perpetual motion ),  using the rotating-tesla-switch,  it's odd that you're  interested in the  figueras-device,  because as far as I know there is still no proof it ever worked,  even though it certainly doesn't seem that it was a hoax .

    According to  'Earnshaw's Theorem',  which says that if  full-levitation is achieved just using permanent-magnets,  then  it will be  'Perpetual-Motion',    because it will be continually unstable.
  I'm  not able to build any of my  full-levitation-designs which just use permanent-magnets,  but I am informed that other people have achieved that .
  So,   'Samuel-Earnshaw'  basically proved the existence of overunity in his mathematical proofs .

guest1289 or forumblog or whatever.

I started to not respond to your post because it is so confusing but decided to see if you could clear up what you are posting.  First you need to drop one or the other of your usernames.  Almost all forums do NOT allow a person to have more than one username.

Secondly I am not sure if this post I quoted was directed to me or someone else.  But since you referred to my question about the undulating magnetic fields I believe the post may be directed towards me.  As far as the undulating magnetic fields I think you are confusing an active device (the sun) with an inactive device (a magnet).   The sun is constantly producing new energy and magnetic fields.  The magnetic field of a magnet is static.   All you need to prove this is to place a magnet on a non-metallic surface and then bring a compass slowly nearer and nearer until it just starts to respond to the magnet.  Then let it sit there.  You will see it will never move or change at all.  So there is no undulating field you could harvest any power from.  Not even a few microwatts.

If your post is directed at me I have no idea where you got the idea that I had a working Tesla Switch or that I was interested in the Figuera device.  And I haven't seen anyone else posting about either in this thread.

As far as Earnshaw's Theorem,  I will admit I have not heard of it.  But I don't understand how levitation by magnets proves perpetual motion.  I would have to read his information and see how he came to that conclusion.  But I have seen devices that suspended an object by using magnets and all of them did after a while settle down and became stable.  So I have doubts about his theorem or maybe it is your interpretation of his theorem that is confusing me.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Dog-One


forumblog

   I definitely did not know there's an actual rule( terms of service ),  stating that you cannot have more than one account.  I did wonder though .

   I do have a very valid reason for having to use 2 accounts,  I won't detail it on the forum,   but there must never be exception to rules,  or the site won't work  etc .

   The mistake I made is that I actually stated that I am guest1289,  but again,  I didn't know it's against the rules .

   There are probably a lot of people on here that have 2 accounts,  for all sorts of reasons,  but of course they don't state that they have 2 accounts,  so it won't be a problem for them .

   It will affect me,  no longer being able to use 2 accounts( and stating on my posts that I am the same person as another account ),  but obviously I will no longer be able to do that .

 

     
   




guest1289

That  youtube video in the previous post,  that's a   super-cooled magnet, so it turns the magnet into a super-conductor,  and the effect is called the  Meissner_effect ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect )
  The Meissner_effect is an exception to Earnshaw's-Theorem and is not all-permanent-magnet-full-levitation,  those super-cooled  permanent-magnets  become  super-conductors,  and are no longer  normal-permanent-magnets.
  That Meissner_effect is exactly what I was trying to achieve,  in the  stable  all-permanent-magnet-full-levitation  designs I posted,   but by only using  normal-room-temperature-magnets,  those designs are designed to work at any angle in relation to gravity,  I posted them here :
http://overunity.com/16298/my-levitators-and-bearings-and-other-designsinventions/msg469748/#msg469748


citfta
Yes, what you say about the  magnetic-field  of a  permanent-magnet  being  static,  is exactly what I think.

   But I can't help thinking that there might be a very-very  specific-distance between an N-pole and S-pole,   at which the fields might briefly reach each other, in an undulating manner,    either due to the interaction of the fields at that very specific distance,  or,   due to things like very slight temperature changes( magnets have a 'curie-point' relating to temperature,  temperature affects magnets which affects their fields , thats also how the meissner-effect is achieved) .

   I have  re-read  your following post on another thread below
http://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg471641/#msg471641

QuoteI was able using Matt's design to get a Tesla Switch to run for a full week lighting some LEDs the whole time.  At the end of the week my batteries were still fully charged.  In addition to the LEDs the batteries were also supplying the power for the electronic switching circuit.  It can be done but it is very tricky getting it to work and if you change the load then you have to start the tuning process all over again.

    Now I realize the device you built was solid-state, not mechanical,  and I have read that LED's can draw very little power.
( I had even read articles on other websites stating that some types of  LED's could be an actual source of overunity ).
    I'ts possible your equipment wasn't good enough to measure the very little power consumed in a week.
    It would be interesting if the solid-state device you built actually had an effect of  charging  the batteries, from that switching-effect,  at the same time that the batteries ran the device.

  I'ts important to read the  entire  post by another person, on another thread, below
http://overunity.com/16295/all-permanent-magnet-complete-levitation/msg469712/#msg469712

QuoteWhat the Theorem clearly states, is that, in accordance to both Gauss's Law, and Laplace's Equation:
Is that any "permanent magnetic" levitation, will result in perpetual motion.
QuoteSimply put, Earnshaw;s Theorem states that, WHEN permanent magnetic levitation occurs,- It cannot be perfectly balanced. (i.e. - without motion)
In the devices that person built, he observed
QuoteThere was, in fact, a motion within the magnetic field.

   I doubt anyone( including me ) on this page has ever observed  all-permanent-magnet-full-levitation,  but it seems,  according to the post  above,   that some people have achieved it,  and in the last 2 or 3 months, I have posted   quite a lot of  all-permanent-magnet-full-levitation designs.

   Maybe anyone here could build an  all-permanent-magnet-full-levitation  device,  to present to the skeptics on this site,  the device could either generate a very tiny micro-current, or just be a  perpetual-motion  device.