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I have a proven model I built. I am looking for like minded people who know more

Started by MeGaFaRR, February 17, 2016, 11:52:50 AM

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Void

Quote from: MeGaFaRR on February 24, 2016, 06:53:54 AM
Again just like a car, once you get that rolling and shifting gears you'll have more than enough to power a generator to energize your power source.
Now if there is anyway that all the physicists, mathematicians or self proclaimed genius can disprove this theory here, let be known that I, Frank Dufault, will argue with them till I am blue in the face and die. Lol

Hi MeGaFarr. It is not really up to others to disprove your contention, especially when you make it clear that
you will not accept anything anyone, including physicists, have to say about the matter. :)

Since you insist, that when using your setup, that once the flywheel is up to full rotational speed it will have
more than enough mechanical energy to continue to drive its own power source from that point on,
why don't you simply connect in an efficient electric generator/alternator to a sprocket/pulley setup on the flywheel
shaft and use the electric power generated to power the electric drive motor, once the flywheel is up to full speed?
There are probably people here who can recommend a suitable electric generator to use for such a test, and who can
probably give you some instructions on how to wire it in and test if you need assistance with doing that.

There are some other people around the world who have already built similar flywheel setups, and a few also claim that
such a flywheel setup will be able to run itself as well. You have already built the flywheel drive part of the setup, so why
not finish the last remaining part of the setup by adding in an electric generator and an electric switch to the output
wires from the electric generator, which allows you to switch the drive motor input power wires over from the mains to the output
from the electric generator?  All you need is an electric generator that will be able to meet the AC power requirements of
the drive motor when it is driving the flywheel and electric generator. You will probably have to use a gear/pulley system to match
the flywheel shaft RPM speed to the RPM speed requirements of the electric generator, and then you will be all set to
put your ideas to a proper test.

There is a world of difference between thinking that something will work, and actually putting the idea through proper testing
to see if in fact it will work as you think it should work. Otherwise you are only just speculating, no matter how much you may
believe the setup can run itself.

All the best...

MileHigh

Well I skimmed through this thread.   It's kind of amusing with respect to YouTube because you can see all the other flywheel free energy plays in the YouTube related clips section, there are so many of them.  Even good old Chas Campbell made an appearance!

Alas, Frank's box o' flywheels is just your typical flywheel zero sum game.  You can only get as much out as you put in less friction.

The Cadillac solution for a single home would probably work, but of course it is simply way too expensive:  Below your basement floor a high-tech vacuum-bearing composite carbon flywheel is entombed in the ground.  Your entire roof is a solar array.  You might even have a windmill on your property.

Presumably, the energy that you can collect from solar and wind can keep your flywheel spinning such that you could power everything in your house with it, including the electric kitchen range.   If you had an extended period of weather with overcast days and no sunshine, you might have too dip into the grid once in a while.  Note however, that that might be offset by days where your flywheel is topped off such that you sell power back to the grid for a "net zero grid" usage.

It sounds wonderful, but it just costs too damn much.

MileHigh

MeGaFaRR

To void and mile high:
Please go stand in front of a car that is standing still, now as the car starts moving see if you can slow it down by pushing. Probably not, but at least you could get out of the way. Now go stand in front of a car going 100 mph and show me all that friction and resistance that you are talking about. We'll then see who is right. Just as in this scenario once momentum takes over, you ain't slowly down too easy. That is the energy I'm talking about.

MeGaFaRR

As far as I can see, no one in all the free energy videos on YouTube or anywhere else including all the F.E.S.S. Sites that I've been to, have ever put a transmission between the flywheel and the power source. Always been what goes in, must come out. Never seen anyone anywhere say "what goes in, hey, wait a minute, let's multiply that force with a transmission, then let's see what comes out"

Void

Quote from: MeGaFaRR on February 24, 2016, 08:54:54 AM
To void and mile high:
Please go stand in front of a car that is standing still, now as the car starts moving see if you can slow it down by pushing. Probably not, but at least you could get out of the way. Now go stand in front of a car going 100 mph and show me all that friction and resistance that you are talking about. We'll then see who is right. Just as in this scenario once momentum takes over, you ain't slowly down too easy. That is the energy I'm talking about.

Hi MeGaFaRR. Your comment quoted above has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote in my comment.
Please re-read my previous comment, and please don't confuse what I wrote with something someone else here may
have written. I stated that the only way you can truly see if your ideas that such a setup can run itself are
valid or not is to put it to a proper test. Otherwise all you have is ideas and talk.

If your purpose here is to get into hot air belief wars, then continue on as you have been doing here up till now.
If you ever want to have any hope of convincing anyone reasonable that your ideas have actual practical merit, then
simply connect an electric generator to the flywheel shaft on your contraption, and use a switch to switch the power wires from
the drive motor over from the mains to the electric generator output once the flywheel is up to full speed. You then won't have to
speculate any more. It will either work as you believe it will work, or it won't. No reasonable person will accept claims such as yours
without some hard proof as demonstrated with a working prototype, which people can examine up close. All else is just more speculative
claims and chatter to add to the endless mountains of claims and chatter about such things which can be found all over the internet these days.

So, are you just here to start arguments and insinuate that anyone who doesn't blindly accept your claims is an idiot, or do you
really want to put your ideas to a proper test to see if they have any merit in reality? I have explained in this comment and my previous
comment how you can do a simple test to see how it really works. So, why are you here? To argue, or to get to the truth? If you
really are interested in the truth, then your only choice is to put your ideas to a proper test and see what the results are.
All else is just talk... Nothing more. :)