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I have a proven model I built. I am looking for like minded people who know more

Started by MeGaFaRR, February 17, 2016, 11:52:50 AM

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MeGaFaRR

Does everyone agree that once the flywheel is at speed whatever the power source is, you have put in 100% of the stored energy you are going to put in? I'm not saying that's what you will get out, but no matter how long you rotate this flywheel with this power source, you will never add to stored energy?

ARMCORTEX

Minde91 kindly made translation videos, please watch to the end.

He skipped the useless beginning only.

MeGaFaRR

Quote from: ARMCORTEX on February 23, 2016, 06:29:09 PM
Minde91 kindly made translation videos, please watch to the end.

He skipped the useless beginning only.

Ok thank you. I did not watch for too long. My bad

MeGaFaRR


MeGaFaRR

Quote from: conradelektro on February 22, 2016, 02:29:26 PM
@MeGaFarr and all flywheel lovers:

Look at these flywheel energy storage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel_energy_storage and you will understand better, what can be done with a fly wheel.

Remark: energy storage efficiency does not take into account the losses in the electric motor (about 60% to 80% efficiency) and the losses in the electric generator (also 60% to 80% efficiency).

One can put energy in a fly wheel by spinning it up e.g. with an electric motor. This takes time T1 and energy E1.

Then one can take out energy from a fly wheel by driving e.g. an electric generator, lets say we take out energy E2 for time T2.

Without losses we get T1 x E1 = T2 X E2.

But because we have losses (friction, losses in the electric motor, losses in the electric generator) we get T1 x E1 > T2 X E2 (less can come out as one has put in).

It is true that it takes little energy to keep the fly wheel running at a constant speed once it has reached that speed. But this is also a loss, because this "maintaining energy" can not be recovered.

In simple words: in the ideal case as much energy as is stored in the fly wheel can be recuperated. In the real case much less can be recuperated (because of losses).

I think that the mental error the fly wheel lovers are doing is the following:

Because it takes little energy to maintain the speed of a fly wheel (with no load on the fly wheel) they think, that this remains the case once a load is put on the fly wheel.

Greetings, Conrad

So everything I quoted in my paper is in this website. I did not change or break any of the rules described here. Please help me understand what you guys aren't seeing that I can plainly see.
Strange thing is whenever I've asked questions on this site, I never get an answer related to it.
I agree with everything on that site. F.E.S.S. Is what my whole paper is all about.