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HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water

Started by Panos25, February 24, 2016, 10:25:55 AM

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lancaIV

https://www.ijee.ieefoundation.org/vol3/issue1/IJEE_13_v3n1.pdf


The pulsed power and conventional power inputs were analyzed in the Figure 6. The results show that the pulsed DC electrolysis is more effective and power savings.


In maximum hydrogen output, power required in pulsed power is 0.57 Watts.


Whereas the conventional DC power required is 18 Watts.


The waveforms of the input power of the electrolytic cell are obtained by the high speed oscilloscope and found that it is the pulsating pulse of 200 nano second with frequency 100 MHz which is depicted in Figure 7.

lancaIV

http://www.rexresearch.com/zogrifoselectrolysis/zogrifos.html

2016 :

By using a single generator with a degree of efficiency of 30% with this production we can now produce 1680 kWh of electricity at a cost of metal of around 50 euros that is equal to 50/1680 = 0,03 € / kWh compared to 0,19 € / kWh  currently charged by Hellenic Public Power Company ( PPC)!




https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/


Antenna is jointed with radiators, heated by heat carrier or by any combustible or by solar beams concentrator. The said radiator emits a band of EM waves of about 100 THz interfered each with the others forming envelope band, can be filtered by the said antenna resonators of much less frequencies into electricity with high energy efficiency that can reach near 100% especially after recuperation of exhaust heat.

If using Plank's Law on-line calculator for blackbody, the Radiant emittance is W = 50.8 kW/m2, and if Band Radiance chosen to be 10 THz around maximum, at 700 Celsius the said efficiency is 92%. and 109 kW/m2, 76% at 900 C. CAPEX is an order of magnitude cheaper than secondary battery






The Zografos system electricity KWh-price is also thermal generator efficiency dependent !


But for a total KWh electricity generation costs there is more than only "cost of metal" and thermal generator to calculate !


All inclusive and by serial industrial production (with all protection) we have to assume in minimum 0,03 Euro/KWh ,by 60% and more thermal generator efficiency !


no profit condition : production costs per unit x 2 = endseller/-consumer price

kolbacict

H2power,
And if I also get hydrogen higher than Faraday from water , what will I get for it? :)

lancaIV


related #110 :

https://www.ijee.ieefoundation.org/vol3/issue1/IJEE_13_v3n1.pdf


The input power required for the production of 0.58 mL/Sec with conventional DC source is 18 watts. But the application of nano pulsed power supply power required is only 0.58 Watts.

0,58 mL/Sec x 3600 = 2,088 Litre hydrogen per hour



https://www.idealhy.eu/index.php?page=lh2_outline
Under ambient conditions, a cubic metre of hydrogen provides some 3 kWh, equivalent to 0.003 kWh per litre.




0.003 KWh per litre = 0,006264 KWh for 2,088 Litre hydrogen


0,006264 KWh =


       6,2464 Wh by       a. conventional electrolysis  :18,00 Wh UNDER-UNITY PROCESS    6,2464/18
                                  b. nano-pulse electrolysis    :  0,57 Wh OVER-UNITY PROCESS      6,2464/0,57




Acca

Lanca thanks for the great posts I am still following them ...

Will comment later..

Enclosed is a photo my HV power supply primary 12 Vdc input 1 amp,  out put 3200v Ac at 4500 Khz about 120 watts output. 

This will be a pulsing RF voltage around the 64 plate dry cell..  I am also using "DEF" fluid in the cell as it is 30 % urea

and pure water..   Voltage split for DEF is .37 volts and has 4 hydrogen atoms.. So the Walmart sells DEF for $2.80 a gallon..



(DEF is diesel emission fluid)..   




Acca