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HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water

Started by Panos25, February 24, 2016, 10:25:55 AM

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kolbacict

I have two simple questions. How can this work? I mean Marx's water generator.
And how to measure the capacitance of a water capacitor?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_capacitor

ramset

Quote from: Acca on March 17, 2021, 09:08:51 PM
About 2 years ago I studied the Zographos videos and in one video he had a spectrum analyzer the display had shown the the upper end of a 300 Ghz. which was quite a shock to me as I worked on radars on slightly lower frequencies.. In the glass test test tube he had placed a small metal plate. Some of the invited scientist passed around the small metal square plate, they where quite surprised, as the device would not work with out the metal square plate in the test tube.. and some years earlier another RF guy John Kanzius used an RF exciter 13.75 Mhz to split water in between two antennas again in a test tube with a tissue immersed wick and the gas would light the wick with a yellow flame as Zographos did it on Greek TV for hours at a time.  The point is that RF in it's self break's up water bonds, the question is what frequency is the best and what modulation is needed to do that.. Now I have split water with RF at 750 KHhz as using a Russian Tesla coil (katcher) a single transistor RF oscillator with some 10 watts of power and was surprised that it worked as it involved high frequency diodes and a test tube. I will post a video later of that..In closing I am surprised that Zographos is still around with incredible knowledge that he has amassed in his RF field in Cell phones.. SO I have posted here on another thread today about this New Zealand company they also have a cheap way of splitting water and it is 20 times less than the conventional electrolysis RF may be a contender as well as graphene.. This none of these tech(s) will NOT see the light of the day, unless it is opened sourced to the people..

Acca..


I spoke a few years ago to the man from Greece , I did ask him to drive his motorcycle ( Hho powered)  to one of his country's 140 emissions inspections place for a print out


He told me speak to his lawyer
—-///—-
As you write above
These hydrogen economy techs need open source (IMO way overdue !!


I have learned a lot from your recent contributions ..


Could use more help to spread the word!!


And what is truly possible






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Chet K









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sollaris1989

Quote from: kolbacict on March 24, 2021, 01:11:12 AM

And how to measure the capacitance of a water capacitor?


Hello buddy.
You can not measure the capacitance of the hho cell aka water capacitor.
water is alive and it is always changing...or as some may say...the water builds up a charge...and changes to a molecular level.

There are some videos on youtube on how to measure it...but nothing very precise....or that everybody can duplicate.

I wish you good luck.

kolbacict

I do not know what to say...
AFC of a cell with water.
maximum, about 10.5 MHz.

Sergh

I see long wires in the photo, ooh..
If you remove the water, there will be no straight line on the device. Without water, a straight line must be obtained. It is necessary to equalize the impedances. In the water itself, it is also necessary to calculate the electrodes so that the impedance is 50 ohms. It is very difficult. Even if you connect the output of the device to the input, the line on the screen will not be completely straight due to inhomogeneities in the cable and connectors.
Simplified version: shorten the wires from 50-ohm cables to a minimum, down to one millimeter. Decrease the cell length to such a scale. To minimize the overall capacity and inductance of the elements external to the 50-ohm RF cable.

This will allow obtaining relatively correct measurements in the frequency range up to 50 - 100 MHz.

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