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HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water

Started by Panos25, February 24, 2016, 10:25:55 AM

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Sergh

Who can provide a link to the detailed description of the Fleischmann – Pons experiment?
Interested in information for the period 1989 - 1992?
What is with ultrasonic in this experiment?
It is similar?:
http://fulviofrisone.com/attachments/article/150/Piezonuclear%20Fusion%20in%20Isotopic%20Hydrogeb%20Molecules.pdf

Sergh

Quote from: Sergh on April 24, 2019, 06:29:15 AM
;D ;D ;D I found an unknown patent for a motor on the water!  ;D ;D ;D


Kapanadze internal combustion engine on water.

The link to official source:
http://www.sakpatenti.gov.ge/en/search_engine/view/8181/1/
Has anyone tried searching on this Georgian website? By other search criteria?
Hmm ... there is still something, close to the Kapanadze motor.  ::)
http://www.sakpatenti.gov.ge/en/search_engine/view/8949/1/
In the patent describes the process parameters: - the interaction time and pressure.
These parameters are the same as those of a gasoline internal combustion engine!
The basis of the patent is the use of a catalyst - calcium hydroxide for thermal decomposition of water.
This is slaked lime. It may be some kind of especially refined or prepared.
The principle is described logically and probably it can work!Based on the patent, electricity is not needed for the decomposition of water .. :o

Georgian patent refers to a Soviet patent:
https://patents.google.com/patent/SU807584A1/en

A very rare Soviet journal  is mentioned in the Georgian patent. "Foreign Nuclear Technology" No12, 1976, p. 13-3
I did not find a way to download this journal. According to other articles, it says something about the thermal decomposition of water at nuclear power plants in France (?) at a relatively low temperature.."[/font]Атомная [/font]техника [/font]за рубежом[/font]" [/font]No[/font]12, 1976, [/font]стр. 13-3[/font]

kolbacict

QuoteThe basis of the patent is the use of a catalyst - calcium hydroxide for thermal decomposition of water.


How could such a reaction look like?
Can your thoughts ...
Nothing comes to mind.

Sergh

This is something completely new.  Maybe this is not a chemical reaction, but something else.
Calcium hydroxide does not decompose, only water evaporates from it.
Slaked lime is probably wetted first with water. Physical effect ..?

In the simplest version, from Soviet patent 1984 - SU 807584 A1

1. We take any slaked lime.
2. We warm up at a temperature of 400-500 degrees of Celsius, but  not higher than the HHO ignition temperature (~550C).
3. We collect the all released gases, pass through a cooler
4. Water vapor condenses, remain a very small amount of H2   ( 0,00057 from vapor volume)
I did not find anything in the literature about this.
According to the method described in the Georgian patent, they get 14 times more, i.e. 0,0082, ~ 1%  from water vapor volume.
Not much, but if you repeat this 50 times per second inside the internal combustion engine or pump, you get 50% ... ???
It is unclear whether this quantity of H2 or HHO will be sufficient for rotation of the internal combustion engine or such a turbine:..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGizUoKrfGo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=836nd6ZijYY

Translation of the patents:

1. Soviet patent 1979 - 1984  SU 807584 A

2. Georgian patent for an improved method, 2007   GE P 2007 4038 B

kolbacict

well, the temperature of the reaction (dissociation) decreases, the yield of hydrogen increases. But the energy balance remains the same. How many calories of heat were spent on dissociation, the same amount we get during combustion HHO.  Or am I wrong?