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Anyone tried replicating the easy LENR video below?

Started by pomodoro, March 12, 2016, 06:19:07 AM

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ramset

This Man starts the Vid with a preface about it being a translation ?
is there an original untranslated version ?

there may already be  a forum or other persons working on replicating this ..with their comments attached ?

@Nink
I was reffering to the simple water and chemical control ,it has not been my experience that such a small percentage has this big a temp rise .[however there are many variables ]

only one way to check that ,but all you really need is the thermometer at this point, if the chemical reaction does all this work then no need to go any further ?



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pomodoro

Quote from: Nink on March 16, 2016, 12:52:43 AM
I thought about this and you are right you really need a control to verify if the reaction had stopped and if more power came out of this then went in.  There are dozens of videos on youtube of Sodium Hydoxide and water creating exothermic reaction https://youtu.be/AsVegL2jJkU?t=43 but that doesn't really tell us the total reaction time temperature variation by quantity of NAoH etc. 

I guess you need 4 experiments as the claim is more energy coming out than going in. 
1) NAoH and H2O heat to 60 C and put in thermos
2) NAoH and H2O heat to 60 C with Tungsten Welding Rod and 80 to 100v DC
3)  NAoH and H2O and metal plates to create HHO with same watts as 1 and 2 and collect hydrogen, Use Hydrogen to heat water.  No idea how we collect the Sodium that is created and combust this as a fuel source so Hydrogen is best we have.
4) a kettle and forget everything else and see if you can raise the temperature of NAoH and Water after reaction finished by a couple of degrees with same watts :-) 


I have some Lye (Sodium Hydroxide) somewhere around I used to make Sodium Silicate for a graphene binder I was using on some super caps and I guess I could buy a welding rod but I lack the proper test equipment, all I have is some basic meters and some digital scales but I don't have an Oscilloscope anymore or a decent power supply, you need thermometers, some thermoses,  ....

Too hard Nick, there is a much simpler way to do the measurements and accurately .  I'm building some of the equipment and will disclose when its ready to go.  Forget the sodium BTW, it never sees the light of day at the cathode. Check the standard reduction potential of Na  vs H2O in alkaline solution.

pomodoro

Here is one of the better bids I've seen.
https://youtu.be/TEceEHgaXoU

Its very well made, but at the end of the video he talks of using a spectrum analyzer to determine the elements. I've never heard of this method as atoms have characteristic lines in the visible/UV range. He doesn't elaborate on that topic, I wish he did as it doesn't seem right. Anyway video is a must for anyone into this stuff.

pomodoro

I'm only new at this, but already some weird phenomena were observed. With both electrodes made of tungsten, there was a particular voltage/current window  before the plasma where there was evolution of gases at the cathode (negative) but absolutely none at the anode. This is using  a warm NaOH solution. This seems absurd as current is supposedly only able to flow when electrons are exchanged at the electrodes and oxidation and reductions occur. There was very little, if any,  visible oxidation of the tungsten, which would have explained the lack of oxygen evolution as it formed oxides on the surface. Another weird event happens when the plasma is made on the anode.
Usually the cathode is made to have the plasma but when you deliberately cause it on the anode, it is more stable. But if you touch glass with the tip look out. First there is a white intense glow and then an exlplosion that can throw out much of the solution.
I was looking out for corrosion of tungsten but only found some when the cathode is made to glow white hot. Only then is some tungsten able to react with water at a rate quick enough to notice.
Too early to tell if anything is OU, but it good fun.

pomodoro

In the 'real' world this type of electrolysis is called Contact Glow Discharge Electrolysis aka  CGDE.
It has been studied quite well since 1950, although it was first reported in 1844! The best journal article to read is by Susanta K Sen Gupta  in 'plasma sources sci. Technology (24) 2015. , A summary of all the research published (188 papers). Under some conditions Non faradaic processes give rise to 80-2000 times the expected faradaic yield of hydrogen.