Simple questions

[Overunutty]

Basically what I'm asking is not where the overunity is but is it overunity?
Once the energy is stored mechanically what difference does it make if it's the flywheel or the procedure to get there that is considered overunity?

[memoryman]

Given the first law of thermodynamics, it is impossible.

[Pirate88179]

Given the first law of thermodynamics, it is impossible.

Exactly correct.


Overunutty:

The overunity is in the question itself..."If I can store more energy in a flywheel than I put into a flywheel, would that be overunity?"
The answer is that your premise is not possible, therefore the answer is no.

Bill

[EMJunkie]

Given the first law of thermodynamics, it is impossible.

This is classic caveman Science!!!

The Power that YOU put into a system vs the Power that YOU get out of a System has nothing to do with the "the first law of thermodynamics"!!!

Joules transformed can and does occur every day and has nothing to do with limiting YOU or any System to any open operational characteristic!!!

Hydroelectric Systems would not be practical if it were a Closed System!!! Wind Turbine, and so many more.

Do YOU put 1.20 watts into your local Hydroelectric Power Station, to get 1 watt out do YOU

Damned Caveman Science 101 - Or do you want to prove me wrong?

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


P.S: I did see a forum somewhere debating: first law of thermodynamics vs the Big Bang!!! Now that's going to be a good debate!!!

[memoryman]

Power is not energy.
Joules are a measure of energy. The first law of thermodynamics is about Joules.
I never went to Caveman University, so didn't take Caveman Science 101. Did you?