Mechanical resonance (Projects unlike forums hacks Tinman and Magluvin)

[Pirate88179]

I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to entertain my question.  I thought I prepared my opinion in a manner which would assure you that I mean what I say and or suggest. It is my hope when I share something that I am not taken for a fool.  It would seem that I have been taken for a fool.....


Last time I checked, that which makes a magnet special is that describable, but yet to be qualified substance, if you will, which is moving through and about the polarized body....lots written on what one can do with it, and this based on observing what it does.....in very specific environments, under very specific circumstances....unfortunately, none have evolved their understanding to the point where spelling out exactly what it is has been possible, add to this, that there is no clear understanding of what polarization is either....lots of discussion regarding positive and negative    charges, and electrons, the latter may or may not exist.  The concept of a "negative charge" just sounds wrong.... As far as electrons go, circuits don't seem to care if they exist or not.  Is it even possible to know what polarization is or what it means if we don't know what this thing is that we are polarizing? Being informed of how to polarize something doesn't mean we know what polarization really is, that information is locked away inside the substance we know nothing about.....I think.....anyway.....  I am informed of what is stated in the literature, thing is, large pills are difficult, and in many instances, shouldn't be swallowed. 


One can assume that the rock has the same substance moving through and about it, however, try as one may, with all of ones might, we observe that a rock cannot be used to hold a piece of paper on the fridge inspite of the fact that it is transmitting and receiving the same substance that the magnet is......did I mention that the rock and magnet have the same mass?  Not that it matters.....uh....wait....that does matter....I think....ok...maybe it doesn't...


The bookshelf....I can appreciate where you "wanted" to go with this, and as such will leave it at that. 


The definition which you speak of which keeps us from falling into chaos is a valid point.  My point is when your priority isn't about making calculations, when you literally do not care about calculations, is your point, while valid, a valid point?  We calculate before we "get it", and wonder why we don't have it?!  How do we justify quantifying that which we have yet to comprehend?  We got something......but there's a problem.....we have no idea what we got.....  What are we looking for anyway, and why are we looking for it?


Regards

Believe me, I get what you are saying here.  These terms and definitions were invented/created to aid in a better understanding of the world in which we live...and the math helps to explain/predict events which we experience every day.

I suck at math and I am no fan of it but, it does serve a very useful purpose...just look at the space program as but one example.

I have no idea why you might think you were taken as a fool, nothing of the sort was intended by me whatsoever.  The rock outside in the garden is holding up dust/dirt/maybe plant life from the ground thereby defying gravity, according to the non-science definition, is all I meant.

What you say about magnetism could also be said about electricity and gravity.  It seems all is known of how they perform and what they will do in any given circumstance yet, no one can agree on exactly what they are.  That kind of sucks but it is the way it is.  Still, mankind has managed to manipulate this understanding to be able to produce the computer and internet which I am now using so, they must be doing something right.

I want to look into more about what Tinman has said about magnetic fields bending light.  I always love to learn something new.

Bill

[Pirate88179]

The poor misunderstood Book shelf ..
it yearns for the day it is truly appreciated and not dismissed as

Because !!

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because works with the Kids ...not so much for others !


Intuition...that itch you just can't scratch !!

Chet

Chet:

Rest assured that one day, the bookshelf will get the credit it has so long deserved.  Refrigerator magnets will have to wait a bit longer I am afraid.

Bill

PS  I look forward to the day I can market a small bookshelf on Ebay as an anti-gravity device and make millions.

[Magluvin]

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This thread is no longer your's--ma and Mags are taking over lol.


Brad

Lol

Mags

[ARMCORTEX]

I am waiting on the video, that shows some inventor who spent 1000's  on a speaker pendulum device.

If this pendulum idea with speakers is 100% the idea of dumb and dumber, this is not a good starting point.

With all the available subject matter to start with, from greater minds than us, your best bet is to try and find who was real deal, and copy, itirate from that.

Now I have successfully shot down your idea, mission accomplished.

[Magluvin]

Well, in my opinion, if you did not have a precise definition of "work" then chaos would result in your calculations when attempting to figure out a system.


In other words, is a bookshelf doing work because it holds up books from the floor?  How about the walls in your house that hold up the roof?  How about a rock sitting in the garden?


I used to get confused about this because if it were me holding all of those books off of the floor like that shelf, I would sure think it felt like "work" to me.  Same with me holding up the roof on my house. (If I could, ha ha)  But, alas, that is not work according to physics.


Bill

Back in the days, speakers didnt have magnets. They had coils to produce the stator field. So 2 sets of wire were sent to the speaker. DC to the stator coil and audio sig to the voice coil. So now that we have magnets, we have eliminated the need to energize the stator coil.

So we can say that the magnet is replacing something that needed power that was consumed continuously. Efficiency of motors have been greatly enhanced by use of the magnets we have today. From what Ive seen, the stronger the magnet, the better the output of a motor. Imagine a  ferrite magnet in a motor, then replace it with a neo mag. Much more efficient. If we were able to reduce the magnets field gradually, the motor would become less and less efficient, all the way to where you get no motor action at all with the same input. And if the motor isnt turning, even more current flows through it. Its not that they didnt have magnets back 'in the days'. Its just that they were not as good as using a coil for the field needed in the stator.

Mags

Mags