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Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?

Started by gravityblock, April 28, 2016, 12:14:07 PM

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Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc, Concave, or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?

The earth is a flat round disc!
The earth is a flat round disc with a dome!
The earth is a round speriical globe!
The earth is concave!

gravityblock

Quote from: MileHigh on April 29, 2016, 07:06:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oe1kDN10jM

Maybe you should read the only comment.  I'll post it here:

"I agree this happens when spin is applied but the effect of having a non perfect pivot point can make the swing go off by a small angle. It suggests Earth might be spinning but isn't a complete proof, for the reasons about the pivot point not being perfect.

The problem is, no pendulum ever goes past 12 degrees or whatever it was you said, it is measurable up to 11.5 degrees? If that is the only angle and no greater I would say that is enough to be caused by imperfections in the pivot point.

The only way to prove that is by machining a million pendulums and choosing the most well machined one and seeing what angle it deviates, I bet it would just deviate 1 degree or 2 degrees.

Of course all down the longitude line of the Earth, pendulums will have varying degrees of altered angles, making it impossible to verify without a great deal of organization and money to machine all those perfect pendulums!

Which is why I said it needs to be zero friction. It could be made with strong magnets but then you have the force of the magnet pulling it at times and we're back to the original problem again of needing "that perfect magnet" with a 100% symmetrical polarity.

There's a reason why these debates go on in 2015 :p

Like I say to anyone though at least you did an experiment IRL which is more than thousands of other people here do. I won't make a pendulum for all the reasons I said above, it needs to be perfect, someone at another point on the "globe" needs to be verify it and so on. You can probably point to examples of that, but each one has to be perfect and even just introducing more people could distort the figures depending on how accurate each person's setup is.

Unrelated but here's what I want to know - the sun is often claimed to be 3,000 miles vertically up above in the flat Earth, but this makes a sunset impossible, meaning the flat Earthers aren't working it out, but the thing is it could be worked out. At 3,000 miles, at sunset, at the equator (6:20 PM "every day every day" :p) would be at an angle of 28 degrees from the observer (in a "noon" position) if the sun were 3,000 miles up.

It can be worked out I just don't know how. The sun's distance from you at this time above the flat Earth at 6:00 PM is 5603 miles away (along the ground) . So then how can the angle be worked out of a sun that is setting on the equator? In the heliocentric model it is just a straight 0 degrees, but on a flat Earth it has to be a certain angle at 6PM on the equator, what I am getting at is what angle is it when the top of the sun is just vanishing?

2,000 miles up is an angle of 19.6 degrees.
1,000 miles up is an angle of 10.1 degrees.

Right, but how the F can anyone figure out what height the sun would be on the flat Earth?! Is there really any way to work this out, how can you tell a calculator when the light has gone? That would be quite the abstract concept, to a calculator! Its something "observed" at 6PM erm...

I honestly think in the flat Earth model the sun must be like 300 miles up or 500 miles.

After that is worked out I think it would be possible to then estimate the size of the sun.

The figure of 3,000 miles was, I think, created as a joke, but there's an answer I just don't know how to do it."

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: Pirate88179 on April 29, 2016, 01:00:52 AM
Ummm...ever see videos or photos of a drop of water in near zero g in a spacecraft?  Yes, it forms a round glob, just like the earth and other planets did all those years ago when the universe was formed.  The water does not form coin shaped disks.

Being able to observe or calculate an event does not equate to knowing what causes that event to happen.  The earth isn't free falling like the zero g spacecraft, so why should the earth form into a sphere as a drop of water may do while in free fall.  If a spherical earth was in free fall, then there would be no "effects" of "so-called" gravity.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Flat Earth compass and the magnetic North star (video).

Why fly vertically in order to reach space in a spherical earth? If the earth was spherical, then we could reach space by flying horizontally.  Airplanes would need to constantly dip their nose in order to maintain a specific altitude in a spherical model.  On the flat earth model, there is no need to dip the nose of the airplane in order to maintain a specific altitude.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

MileHigh

Well isn't that interesting because a rocket goes straight up and within a few minutes is mostly flying horizontal to get into space.  That supports the spherical Earth.

It's the old cliche about playing golf on the moon.  If you could swing hard enough the golf ball would never come back down, instead it would go into orbit around the spherical moon.

Pirate88179

Quote from: gravityblock on April 29, 2016, 07:13:28 AM
October 14, 2015 NASA's "most epic" time lapse footage of earth from space CLEARLY shows this is Computer Graphics (CGI).  Observe how the clouds never move, how the city lights on earth never twinkle, how fake it looks in general,...look at the comments, everyone is noticing how fake it is...(see first image below)

Over 15,000 satellites, never saw one from the International Space Station (ISS) view or any other fake stuff they release
- Over 30,000,000 debris around the earth, same as above
- Over 84,000 meteorites a year, same as above

Here we can see there are no real photo's of ANY satellites despite there being a cluttered crazy amount up there (see second image attachment below of google's image search of satellite images)

Gravock

Ummm...the space station orbits at about 100 miles up...most sats. are like thousands of miles up, geo sync sats are 22,500 miles up so, since they are ABOVE the ISS, why would you think they could be seen between the ISS and the earth?  Probably the ISS is the only Sat. at that altitude.

Please research a little bit before making such outlandish postings.

Bill
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