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Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?

Started by gravityblock, April 28, 2016, 12:14:07 PM

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Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc, Concave, or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?

The earth is a flat round disc!
The earth is a flat round disc with a dome!
The earth is a round speriical globe!
The earth is concave!

tagor

Quote from: gravityblock on June 26, 2016, 07:50:21 AM

bla bla ...

Gravock

can you stop bullshit ...

yes the earth is flat !
and you have to give a mathematic model for YOUR FLAT EARTH or  stop spamming this forum !

TinselKoala

Quote from: gravityblock on June 26, 2016, 06:25:22 AM
You're working under the wrong assumptions.  It is the sky (dome) that is rotating, and not the earth. 

All telescopes Are OVERRATED TOYS, Another BIG Misconception (video).   The fact that the distances to stars are based on the assumption that the earth is moving 186,000,000 miles in half a year, is the basis for generating parallax baseline measurements.  If the Earth is NOT moving (and no experimental evidence suggests that it is), then it's completely screwing up all conventional distance measurements.  In other-words, what we are told about the universe, stars, planets and distance is B.S.!  Telescopes are very limited, in fact all of them.  It was demonstrated that the capacity of a large telescope to see the distant stars has been overestimated.  The result of this calculation indicates that a very large telescope, such as the Hubble (SOFIA), enables observers to see only 357.14 times farther than the naked eye, pointing to wide ranging implications regarding many theories related to size and distances of stars and the so-called galaxies.

Gravock

Once again your post demonstrates that you are completely ignorant about astronomy. I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain to you how telescopes _actually_ work to allow very deep observations into intergalactic space. You'll just claim that my own photographs of galaxies millions of light-years away are "fake".

Hint: magnification and resolving power do not determine how far a telescope can see! 

How very clever it is for NASA to put up things on the "sky dome" that are so very dim that it takes hours of exposure time to get them to show up, right where all the star atlases says they will be, even to the merest amateur astronomer like me! 








TinselKoala

Quote from: gravityblock on June 26, 2016, 06:25:22 AM
You're working under the wrong assumptions.  It is the sky (dome) that is rotating, and not the earth. 

You still need to explain the star-trails image I posted, taken from the Canary Islands, that shows _two_ centers of rotation, one clockwise and the other counterclockwise, at the same time. Your "rotating sky dome" model is an ignorant fantasy, nothing more, and does not fit the actual facts of observation.

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All telescopes Are OVERRATED TOYS, Another BIG Misconception (video).


What an utter facepalm bunch of ignorant garbage that video is!   

QuoteThe fact that the distances to stars are based on the assumption that the earth is moving 186,000,000 miles in half a year, is the basis for generating parallax baseline measurements. 


Not even that is quite true. The _diameter_ of the Earth's orbit is approximately 186 million miles, but since the Earth is _moving_ along the orbital curve it is actually _moving_ much further than that.  It is true that the diameter distance is the baseline for astronomical parallax measurements.

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If the Earth is NOT moving (and no experimental evidence suggests that it is),

That's a total lie. There is plenty of experimental evidence that the Earth is indeed moving, and for you to assert otherwise once again shows two things: you are ignorant of observational astronomy, and you will simply deny the validity of any and all evidence that refutes your idiotic contentions.

Quotethen it's completely screwing up all conventional distance measurements.  In other-words, what we are told about the universe, stars, planets and distance is B.S.! 

That doesn't even follow, even if it were the case that your garbage "theory" were true. Parallax is only good out to a certain distance; further than that and the parallax becomes too small to be useful as a distance measurement. Other measures are then used to estimate the distances further out, like "standard candles" such as the observed brightness of Cepheid variable stars or certain types of supernovae. Yes, these distances are estimates, based on extrapolations of observations of closer objects, and the physics of electromagnetic radiation, etc. The mileage (or kilometerage) indicated on your car's odometer is also an estimate, based on the diameter of your tires, the gear ratio of your transmission, and other imperfectly known values.

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Telescopes are very limited, in fact all of them.


Yes, that is true, but not in the way that your silly linked video claims. Or rather, the video and your "reasoning" leave out some very important facts of astronomical observation.
The fact that telescopes are limited is the reason why they are constantly being improved, and why various different types of telescopes exist and are being used every day to improve our _real_ understanding of the the universe around us. Visible light telescopes are only a small part of the armoury of astronomical observation tools. Your bogus "theory" of conspiracy and flat earth does an enormous disservice to the legions of astronomers, astrophysicists, other scientists and technicians who are contributing to this effort. Fortunately, you mean nothing to them and they will continue working to expand our knowledge, while laughing out loud at ignorant, lying videos like the one you posted.

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It was demonstrated that the capacity of a large telescope to see the distant stars has been overestimated.  The result of this calculation indicates that a very large telescope, such as the Hubble (SOFIA), enables observers to see only 357.14 times farther than the naked eye, pointing to wide ranging implications regarding many theories related to size and distances of stars and the so-called galaxies.

Gravock

Wrong. Nothing of the sort was demonstrated. Actually what that video demonstrates is another prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect, where a little bit of incomplete knowledge is used to come to utterly wrong conclusions which are then "taught" to even more ignorant, gullible people like yourself.

SeaMonkey

Well said TinK!

One can only wonder why Gravity Block is so fatally attracted
to the Flat Earth PsyOp.  What could possibly be the incentive
for toeing the Flat Earth Line?

For most who have fallen for the Flat Earth PsyOp, it seems to
be the ability to identify by association with those who presently
have power over the nations.  Taking the "Mark" as it were, to
demonstrate loyalty to the Elites.

What a shame it is.

wattsup

Here is my theory of the only way a Flat Earth is possible. hahahahaha
Yep, out of the box. (or globe I should say).
http://etherimpress.com/forum/index.php?topic=688.msg2331#msg2331