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Bike runs on water 100 % - No Gasoline - Microwave Pulse Generator Water Split

Started by hartiberlin, May 04, 2016, 02:29:43 AM

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Pirate88179

My simple question is:

What happens to the O2 in the H2O when it is split?  It has to go someplace right?  I mean, it can't just disappear.  I can't watch the videos or anything until I get home...does he account for where the O2 goes in his videos?

Thanks,

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
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pomodoro

Quote from: e2matrix on May 04, 2016, 01:08:31 PM
Hydrogen burns with an orange flame.   Looks close in the video and the source of lighting in the room as well as the camera used could easily shift orange to a more yellow hue as orange and yellow are very close in the color spectrum.
I use a hydrogen oxygen torch to melt quartz tubing occasionally and the flame is almost invisible. In the dark it is blue/white, even with no mixed oxygen. Mind you I use ultra high pure hydrogen as used in my lab for experiments. The red hydrogen line is from the atomic spectrum of hydrogen, not the molecular spectrum and only occurs where enough atomic hydrogen is made which ive never been able to achieve in the oxyhydrogen flame. A trace of hydrocarbon will give some yellow if not enough oxygen is provided. Any sodium chloride will make a very specific yellow flame, but most of the flame will be yellow, not just the tip.Methanol, Ethanol and higher alcohols burn like in the video. The more carbons in the molecule, the more yellow the flame. After ethanol, the boiling point gets too close to that of water and his prop would not work. Methanol is hard to smell but ethanol and above are easy to detect with your nose.
Try writing to the dude and see what instructions he gives and let us know. These cunning people will pretend to be helpful so as to con investors, who see it as a sign of goodwill.

pomodoro

Let's ignore the fact that the hydrogen is not burning like hydrogen and let's ignore the other fact that the bubbles are those of boiling, not those of a chemical reaction and focus on the chemistry. We see clearly that no oxygen is liberated.Judging by the large volume of the supposed hydrogen, a fair amount of oxygen needs to be locked up as hydroxide, eating up the metal .Reduction of the water bonded hydrogen to gas requires an electron from the metal. Now the metal bonds to the oxygen. The other hydrogen remains bonded to the oxygen as well, forming MOH, M being the metal, instead of water, HOH. This is simplified since different amounts of OH will attach to the metal depending on its valency .Since the metal is not from the alkali or alkali earths it will not be all that soluble and will show up as a white, colored or gelatinous precipitate. But we see nothing of the kind. There is a very unlikely scenario of OH. radicals forming and converting into H2O2 but this is known to be very small side reaction in radiolysis of water.I would not be too surprized if this is an orchestrated stunt by the Greek government to get some badly needed funds into the country because Greece is hurting very badly still.

TheCell

Quote from: e2matrix on May 04, 2016, 12:36:51 PM
From his web site:  " "Anyone can build and who need our help will provide the eager, will help anyone who wants to build.  Maybe help so ... to awaken the productive forces of the country, "noted Peter Painter"
Doesn't sound like what a con man would be writing ....
Do I get it right : he offers help to replicators , and only wants them to spread the knowledge?
Could you please post the url of the page with this text?