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Bike runs on water 100 % - No Gasoline - Microwave Pulse Generator Water Split

Started by hartiberlin, May 04, 2016, 02:29:43 AM

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smoky

Hi guys, this is mainly speculation on my part but it might help understand the device a little.
I think he is probably using a final centre frequency of 1420 GHz the resonance frequency required to reverse the spin of the Hydrogen electron.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_maser


I have some Lab experience in assembling & making measurements in waveguide setups.
To me the size of the rectangular flexible waveguide looks like it is either P Band (12.4 to 18 Ghz) or more likely Ku Band (18 to 26.5 Ghz).
The silver foil is to stop microwave leakage at the bolted joints.


Looking at block diagram:
The source frequency above is probably from an over the counter YIG oscillator, it is amplified and modulated using a non linear mixer (biased ferrite) which outputs the upper and lower sidebands and the centre carrier frequency from the YIG.

The mixer is an AM mixer not the more common FM balanced mixer, we can tell this because there is a linear amplifier further down the block diagram chain.
If it were FM mixing a more efficient (eg. class C) amplifier could be used but he is trying to retain all the voltage ratios of the frequency components, so a linear amplifier (which amplifies all frequencies equally with little distortion of the original amplitude levels) is used.


Not sure why there's 2 separate PLL's (phase lock loops) but suspect it is to modulate the carrier frequency with a slow beat note between the sum and difference frequency of the 2 PLL's.
The Hydrogen nucleus is quite massive compared to it's electron so maybe nucleas can respond to the slow beat note whilst the electron responds to centre frequency?
 
If the YIG is at about 26.5 GHz plus very low (audio?) freq modulation from PLL's then when it goes thru the 26 times multiplication stage it would be about 689 Ghz.
After the linear amp the special filter likely picks off the second harmonic at 1378 GHz.


Not sure about all that copper pipe in the videos but will say that it is easy to go from rectangular waveguide to circular pipe style waveguide.
This is frequently done in feed to radar dishes which have physically move or track an object ...the circular pipe style allows a freely rotating feed joint.
Just needs a matching step to go from transverse electric TE mode to circular  and back again.


Just MHO for what it's worth ..Smoky

picowatt

Quote from: smoky on December 21, 2016, 05:27:05 AM
Hi guys, this is mainly speculation on my part but it might help understand the device a little.
I think he is probably using a final centre frequency of 1420 GHz the resonance frequency required to reverse the spin of the Hydrogen electron.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_maser



The Wiki has typos that need to be corrected.

The correct frequency is 1.420 GHz (1420 MHz) not 1420 GHz or 1,420 GHz

In the Wiki, the commas in 1,420 GHz should have been periods (decimal points).

PW 

smoky

Thanks for your reply Pico,


On the two PLL's in the block diagram, this is most likely done to get down to zero Hertz offset from the carrier.
As it is difficult to get a single oscillator with a freq. range down to zero Hertz... by beating the two phase locked oscillators together in the mixer they can go down to zero Hertz offset with stability.


Also near the output block they have shown a directional coupler which would never be used for this purpose. 
A normal directional coupler relies on phase difference to achieve directivity so phase difference between output ports is usually not constant.

It is most likely an H plane or E plane Tee device, depending if they want the E fields or the H filed to be in phase at -3dB.


As microwave beam focus becomes far more intense with frequency ...sort of like comparing a broadcast AM radio Station HF signal with a TV VHF signal, the radiation dispersion pattern is quite different.
So the little piece of metal inside the glass tube may be used as a micro wave reflector dispersing the radiation about inside the beaker.[/size]



Acca

The spectrum device that Petros Z. has shown in one of the first clips is that the band width is between 50 and 325 Ghz on the display and you can see that the radar type of very sharp impulses are in the center of the display are in fact at the center display 135 Ghz and there are at least 12 impulses shown that represent a band of 100 to 145 Ghz.
Now that is what is shown.. I worked in radar and it looks like pulses that represent a pulse train in a standard RF generator (radar).. Also seen the test equipment that Petros has looks like he came out of GSM telephone background as in another video, looks impressive , however every thing is old and the GSM equipment now on Ebay is $500 each he has 4 of them ..


The only expensive test equipment is, is that spectrum 325 Ghz as it is $5000.  used on Ebay..


Acca. 


my observations only...

smoky

Hi Acca,
Yes you and Pico might well be right there, like you I am just trying to work logically from what is shown and can easily wrong on my part.

I couldn't make out those frequency readings on the clip I saw.
Will see if I can find that clip.


Am quite familiar with the Marconi 2955 Radio Com Test set shown  ..yes only good to 1GHz.


Lets say it was 325 Ghz and we work backwards through the block diagram.
Paying special attention to the possible frequency change blocks.


The special filter could be just a bandpass filter but most likely picking off second harmonic.
Because previous multiplication block of 26 times puts nearest mixer spurious unwanted product at 26 times the carrier frequency away.


Waveguides in common TE10 mode usually only cover less than an octave (eg 12.4GHz to 18GHz) before another size of guide is chosen.


So we take 325GHz and halve it = 162.5GHz, then divide by 26 times = 3.125GHz.
This should be the approximate maximum input frequency to the mixer stage.


A waveguide to handle 3GHz frequency in TE10 mode is going to be G band or E band as the cutoff wavelength in the guide is about 50mm or 2 inches wide.
Typically the external size waveguide plumbing would have to quite large to handle it, easily visible in those clips.


No sorry I myself have to stick with the approx Terra Hertz scenario just from the size of the plumbing used.


Unless all that small waveguide is put there just to decieve, these days with scams nothing surprises me.


Smoky