MH's ideal coil and voltage question

[tinman]

As you did not specify an ideal wire, just one with no resistance, shall we assume the wire still has inductance (like any wire)?

PW

Why do you indicate a wire shorting your coil?  You do know that does not represent an ideal inductor don't you?

Indeed i do PW--something for you to remember stating when the end result is presented.


Brad

[tinman]

My short answer to question number two as stated in the diagram is yes.

PW

As i said,this i would like to see.


Brad

[tinman]

The equivalent circuit model for an ideal inductor is not an inductor with a wire shorting across its ends.

You do know that don't you?

PW

Yes i do.
Remember you stated that PW.


Brad

[tinman]

   The poor tinman is obviously very,very lost here.
   I really like him all the same.
   One needs to go right back to the basic concept and start from there.
        John.

What one needs to do,is look at MHs circuit as described,and understand what it is.

As soon as you do the MH paradox conversion,where you simply dismiss things like infinite and no resistance,because you !think! they have no meaning due to there value,then you will never arrive at a correct conclusion as to what will happen at T=0

The fact that there is no resistance,is the very reason you do not just dismiss it,just because you think inductance is going to make it obsolete-->big error.

Are you going to have a go at answering MHs question John,or are you just going to continue to say i am wrong,even though you can answer the question your self.
Much like telling some one that they dont know what  the magnetic force is,even though you have no clue of your own as to what it is.
One can only conclude that your statements and remarks toward me ,are nothing more than you riding on the back of MH--and others here as well.
Agree with those you think are correct--not because you have an opinion of your own.


Brad

[minnie]

   What is the diagram with a shorted inductor?
       John.