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MH's ideal coil and voltage question

Started by tinman, May 08, 2016, 04:42:41 AM

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Can a voltage exist across an ideal inductor that has a steady DC current flowing through it

yes it can
5 (25%)
no it cannot
11 (55%)
I have no idea
4 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 20

MileHigh

Quote from: tinman on June 03, 2016, 01:35:49 PM
No--you place a voltage across a current flow,where that voltage is ideal,and wants to create a current flow in the opposite direction to that of what already exist.

So limited in your thinking.

There is no such thing as "placing a voltage across a current flow."  Six year's worth of electronics experimentation and help from some very knowledgeable people and you still manage to state nonsense like that.  That's the proverbial canary in the coal mine if there ever was one.

In desperation, let's try the flywheel this time.   The flywheel is initially stopped, and you apply clockwise torque to the flywheel for three seconds.  Note that as the flywheel speeds up, you still have to apply the same torque, and that means the faster the flywheel spins. the more power you have to put out.

For two seconds you apply no torque and the flywheel free spins with no change in RPM.

Then for two seconds you apply counter-clockwise torque.  As you can imagine, the flywheel starts to slow down.  If you apply counter-clockwise torque for an extended period of time, the the flywheel will stop and then reverse direction.

Now who is the person that is limited in their thinking?

ramset

Miles Quote to TinMan
""Bullshit, and you are nothing more than a bench tinkerer that barely knows what he is doing but believes that he knows it all.  You have been fully exposed, and it was about time, and it's not a pretty sight at all.""

end Quote

So I used a few less colorful words
your theme is and always has been self evident regarding Tinman.

and actually it has been your entire issue with most members here that experiment with resonance or timing or pulsing etc etc ad nauseum   infinitum 

Absolutely anything which has to do with the Blasphemous topic of Morons

                 Over unity

Miles Quote
" I can't wait to put this to bed once and for all""
end quote

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so on this side of the line above ...we have a man Tinman who has made a discovery in which he claims he can make magnets do work and get more out than in ...has a unique understanding of the interaction between Magnets and inductors.

  Miles feels the need to Put this guy in his place and show all here by Default that such a man could never
make such a discovery ,    and you have even recently started mumbling his name in sentences with noteworthy
dubious fraudsters ..

that's the real jist of what this is truly all about.

Only one clear resolution here ..

a contest !!



@ Note to Minnion above
If you don't live forever may you at least have the Glory of coming back as a particular type of beetle which holds the same passion for that pile............

I have to hand it too you John
You are a character !!
;D
Hugz







Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

MileHigh

Chet, you really shouldn't be Brad's sycophantic lapdog and think for yourself.  There's not going to be a "contest," stop barking like a dog.  Brad started this thread as a challenge for himself and failed.  The other thread had an equal amount of madness and technical ridiculousness and failures in it.  And I was wrong about resonance in an ICE, did you hear that?  I don't know how a bloody JFET works.  The next time Brad does an experiment and "discovers that energy can come from magnets" I think people will be thinking about his technical performance on this thread and the Joule Thief 101 thread.  There is nothing wrong with the truth.

Why don't you contribute something technical to this discussion?  Right, you are only here for completely biased colour commentary and you like to weld.

QuoteTinman who has made a discovery in which he claims he can make magnets do work and get more out than in ...has a unique understanding of the interaction between Magnets and inductors.

Really?  I haven't seen him demonstrate any kind of "unique" understanding but I have seen him demonstrate lots of a lack of understanding as well as complete misunderstanding.

Quoteand you have even recently started mumbling his name in sentences with noteworthy
dubious fraudsters ..

Yes, the man can be totally dishonest to the point of ridiculousness right in front of your face, but lapdogs like you only pant and lick and wag their tails, right?

ramset

Miles
The technical discussion around Brad and his ability took Place quite some time ago,
You remember

Mark E and several other talented Fellows took his Rotary transformer thru every conceivable test
allowed at that time.

and they were stumped as to how he was getting this energy into the system.

Mark E was hired to investigate claims , he was Quite brilliant.

                                              Stumped !

It was the first and only time that I personally witnessed this happen here.

and Now you Play the Pink Panther ....










Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

MileHigh

Yes it seemed to be an enigma.  However I have seen Poynt get to the bottom of many enigmas over the years and resolve them.  Wasn't this the case where Brad apparently got "spooked" and took off and the whole thing became a mystery?

I really just wanted to try an experiment stemming from my own frustration:  Show Brad unambiguous absolute proof that he made a statement, and see how he would respond.  Then of course he came back and flat out denied that he made the statement even though the proof was right there in front of his face.  That is simply an unworkable situation.

It explains all of the craziness and insanity going right back to the start of the discussion on the Joule Thief 101 thread.  How can anybody possibly argue with, or bounce ideas off, or try to educate somebody like that?  Don't say anything Chet, you won't allow yourself to.

Brad can stew in his own juices and do whatever he wants but he can't deny that he couldn't answer the two wine glass questions, nor could he solve the simple first question by himself.  Some things just are what they are but I don't expect that reality to change anything for Brad.

There is a positive angle though.  Hopefully many lurkers were paying attention and they "got it" and they will benefit from it when they work on their bench.  Call them the silent majority.

MileHigh