MH's ideal coil and voltage question

[tinman]

Note that I was explicitly writing about the current increase through an ideal inductor with finite inductance.

The current would not increase if CEMF = -EMF, but they would be so only in the case when the ideal inductor had infinite inductance.

And so the reverse would apply.
The moment an EMF is placed across the ideal inductor,and a current started to flow,then the CEMF produced would be the same as the EMF that created it. That being the case,then the inductor would act as though it had infinite inductance.

Just thoughts


Brad

[tinman]

 author=minnie link=topic=16589.msg483887#msg483887 date=1463045835]


   
   
    I don't see superconductors as the equivalent zero resistance.
   
      I lied when I said I knew the answer when in reality I didn't.
    Have a great day you all,warmest regards, John.

I would love to do the experiment, a good quality choke and a couple of forklift LA. cells
  would make an ideal power supply. I can see smoke in the equation.

Of course you will get smoke,as you will have resistance,and be far from an ideal inductor.It is the resistance that causes the heat loss,no resistance=no heat.
Remember,the ideal inductor dose not dissipate power. The ideal inductor is wound from ideal conducting wire.

I don't see superconductors as the equivalent zero resistance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect
In Type II superconductors, raising the applied field past a critical value Hc1 leads to a mixed state (also known as the vortex state) in which an increasing amount of magnetic flux penetrates the material, but there remains no resistance to the flow of electric current as long as the current is not too large.

Another point I'd like to make is the continual appearance of things like "You lied MH."
   to me lying is deliberate fraud whereas misinformation due to incomprehension
   isn't lying.

You mean like making an absolute claim about there being no resonant systems in or around an ICE in any way,shape ,or form--only to later say-->well i dont know that much about ICEs
So you have given only two option's,fraud,or misinformation.

As much as myself and MH may not get along at times,due to nothing more that a difference in opinion,i would think more-a mistake would be a better word to use--which we have all made.


Brad

[tinman]

Perhaps we can actually carry out this experiment

Will insulated copper wire become super conductive if submerged in liquid nitrogen ?.
If not,what kind of wire would we need to achieve our super conductive windings at liquid nitrogen temperatures.


Brad

[Johan_1955]

Or this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvZJ9xGutI

Hear the: Sorry about the light, and welcome in mine Labrborattorry (Nicky''''''s, kitchen table)!?

[tinman]

Or this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvZJ9xGutI

Hear the: Sorry about the light, and welcome in mine Labrborattorry (Nicky''''''s, kitchen table)!?

That almost sounds like TK lol.


Brad