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Overunity Machines Forum



"A Proposal for over unity" by Jim Stone May 24 2016

Started by glennmr, May 26, 2016, 07:21:02 AM

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MileHigh

Good on you Bill.  After what you posted I took a peek at the link.  Sometimes I even do battle with people that express those views on YouTube.

Mr XYZ

Ok, now i realize the first responder's context and yes I know where this site is hosted, but let's steer around this A_S red-herring thing and focus on the actual CONTENT -               
                              " A Proposal for over unity.

I am going to state a simple (proposed) method of achieving over unity. I do not have a working model for this, but for all I can see, it ought to work. If this is cryptic to you, only a little study can get you going, this is actually very basic stuff (for what it is).

The method involves using the ferromagnetic to paramagnetic properties of the metal Nickel. The motor is an electric hybrid that uses the transition of normal ferromagnetic attraction, to paramagnetic null points for the bonus energy, and drives the system with electrical energy that can be set up to return 95 percent of the electrical input. When this is combined with the ferromagnetic to paramagnetic manipulation, it definitely will go over unity with probable overall efficiencies of 160 percent easily achieved. And yes, you can hook up a generator and self drive the entire system while draining off the surplus.

Because this is a straightforward system, I can cut to the chase and say it all in a few lines anyone with science skills can follow and not bury people in mystery and 500 pages of hocus pocus B.S. It uses no moving parts other than an armature, and obviously the commutation would have to be set up but that is fairly easy to do.

Here goes: It would be best to use an ideal alloy.

Because the curie temperature of Nickel (the temperature at which it becomes paramagnetic) is high enough to destroy most cheap magnets, (which are used in this sytem) and to make everything easier to manage, you want to get the curie temperature of the nickel lower than it naturally is. This can be accomplished by alloying it with 18.8 percent copper, as shown in the diagram below. This diagram was produced by the Chinese, by the way, and I had to use it because all the charts that were produced by Americans were behind a pay wall!

Ok, so in this chart you see a number of spikes, that show the curie point changes with different nickel copper alloy percentages. Since at 18.8 percent copper the nickel, before it's curie transition can still produce a strong magnetic attraction, and because that temperature is just a little over 400 kelvin (which is easily manageable,) it makes perfect sense to use an alloy rather than pure nickel.

Here is how this thing actually works, now that you know what metal alloy to use:
You put on the armature, permanent magnets, and use magnetic guides to concentrate and direct their fields (like a speaker magnet does) this is easy to do - and around the armature in a housing that is placed around it, (stator housing) you put your nickel alloy strips. You do not heat the armature up, you heat only the body surrounding the armature (which contains the nickel strips.) This outer shell is the commutated portion of the motor. Obviously this arrangement can be reversed, but I figured it would be easier to tinker with this, with the commutation in the stator (the outer housing I spoke of).

You want to heat up the outer shell to approximately 423 Kelvin (this will vary slightly due to alloying variances). You want the temperature to land in the ferromagnetic temperature range of your nickel alloy, just below the curie point. Then, an electric current is applied to your nickel alloy strips (that surround the armature) to heat them up past the curie point. This temperature change only needs to be one or two degrees farenheit to get practically all the benefits of the effect. WHAT HAPPENS? This is what happens:

The nickel strips, which are naturally magnetic, will pull the magnets in the armature towards them, even without power applied. When the magnets get close to the nickel strips (but not perfectly lined up yet) a high current very low voltage pulse is sent through the nickel strips which will provide additional magnetic attraction, at the same time it heats the nickel alloy up slightly past the curie point and then the electricity gets cut off, and the armature, having been accelerated by both the magnetic attraction from the nickel alloy AND the electricity applied to that alloy, then experiences no back pull from the nickel alloy as it moves away, because the alloy is no longer magnetic after being heated slightly. The armature then coasts to the next nickel alloy strip, after having reaped the benefits of the initial pull from the nickel alloy on the previous cycle, and encounters no losses from exiting the previous cycle.

A heat sinking system needs to be in place to draw the temperature of the nickel alloy down a degree or two Fahrenheit to allow it to become ferromagnetic again before the next magnet arrives to pull on it. The electrical portion of the motor would be, in effect, a pulse driven permanent magnet motor which is the current highest efficiency motor design there is on the market right now and there would be practically no power loss from setting it in motion. The same alloy strips that are used for the over unity effect would form the electrical portion of the motor also. So practically anything at all over unity can be harvested. There is no significant power loss, and huge gains from the ferromagnetic to paramagnetic transition. The armature will not heat up despite being enclosed, because unlike an induction motor, it is not needed for transfer of magnetic forces and can be built as an open frame rather than a solid piece, which will allow excellent cooling.

All of this would require playing around to find out where a particular design hits max efficiency. Max efficiency would be achieved by having the minimum amount of current for the shortest time sent through the alloy strips to cause their temperature transition to be the minimum possible needed to drive the system. The closer to perfect that is, the faster the motor can run, and the more efficient it will be.

That's all there is to it! ..." (end quote)

I just shared this for the sake of our OU quest here, and so we should focus on the content, and not get distracted by side issues or predictable red herrings.
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Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 26, 2016, 08:22:12 PM

You do realize that this website, Overunity.com, is based in Berlin, Germany right?  You do realize that they have laws against posting anti-semetic site links right?  If I were you, I would remove this link.

Who reads crap like this anyway?

Bill

Johan_1955


CANGAS

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QuoteI just shared this for the sake of our OU quest here, and so we should focus on the content, and not get distracted by side issues or predictable red herrings.


WTF!!

First you fling a Red Herring in our face. Then you advise us "Ignore the Red Herring!".

You are nuts.

If you are not a lying confusion artist, then don't fling a Red Herring at us in the first place.

And if you honor the Judeo Christian tradition, you are in dire need to become familiar with the pronouncement from Lord God concerning those who would bless or curse the Jews (Semites). It is in the Old Testament roughly a dozen chapters before the account of the death of Moses. Connected with the story of Baalam and Baalak. Tread with care when you go about blessing or cursing the Jews.

During the past quarter century I have exactingly analyzed roughly 500 (in all the excitement I lost count myself) potential OU devices in sufficient detail to become certain whether they could be OU within the bounds of bedrock basic Newton Mechanics. Yous does not seem to hold water.


CANGAS 235

glennmr

Now isn't this interesting! - I am now "nuts" because I gave the reference link, which is the only link on the whole internet where you could find/check this quote, and obviously if I had just given the quote without the reference link, everyone would have been asking me immediately to show them where the information came from! (which is why I included it) but because some people can't handle even a reference to a site published by somebody with an outlook differing from stock-standard, they will reject the whole thing holus-bolus!  - sort of predictable.  Ok then, i won't bother anybody any more on this one, as we can already see where this thread is going to go. The actual suggested project may or may not be workable, but that's not the point.
Farewell.