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Graham Gunderson's Energy conference presentation Most impressive and mysterious

Started by ramset, July 11, 2016, 07:00:18 PM

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Reiyuki

@MH:     While I disagree with your analysis, we can take this one elsewhere.  Not gonna make this yet another angry, long-winded 100 page derail thread.  Ya almost hooked me.. ::)


@Everyone:

To summarize what was presented, we effectively have a uniquely built and driven transformer circuit, with a primary and secondary.
  (Primary side)
* Primary is a high-voltage, high-efficiency tank circuit, driven by an H bridge.
* Primary is contained within a 'flux loop' composed of barium ferrite ceramic magnets.
* The flux loop magnets have gaps where they meet the ferrite primary.
* Primary's position on B-H curve is important.
* Primary is driven near:   33% push, 33% pull, 33% rest.

  (Secondary side)
* Low permeability ferrite secondary.
* Secondary is wound to minimize capacitance.  "Gram said that by adding a 100 pf Silver-Mica capacitor between the Source and Drain of one of the Back End FETS would completely destroy the OU effect."
* Secondary feeds thru a pair of HV SiC MOSFETS to a large capacitor bank akin to a Synchronous Rectification circuit.
* The FET circuit is briefly interrupted, causing a voltage spike on the secondary coil.  This interrupt lasts until this voltage spike peaks, 20nS-1uS later at as high a voltage as the FETs will allow (1.2kv for the SiC FETs used)
* This interrupt occurs midway between the Push and Pull portion of the primary (peak flux, minimum voltage).


(Control/etc)
* Control circuit is a hex inverter 'ring' circuit, with variable timing at each stage.
* Both coils are wound w/ Litz wire.
* COP is variable depending on when the interrupt occurs.  Timing earlier results in higher COP but lower secondary output.
* The interrupted load spike is a critical to the effect


All photos and notes I have are available here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0_1dJJ_ezEmSzZMRmxNSFkwZmc

Anyone with questions, comments, or analysis pertaining to Gunderson's presentation, I'm happy to help :)    Spokane1's had some direct conversations with Graham lately, so he's probably a very useful source as well.

Reiyuki

Quote from: MileHigh on July 21, 2016, 10:23:03 PM
Let the performance continue, I am more than happy to watch.

Fair enough, sir, we'll leave it at that and see who hits the finish line first ;D .

ramset

I have no idea what you are implying here Milehigh
I can't read it....
The good news is this thread will be cleaned up and get back on track hopefully
With some moderation very shortly

Another thread can be started for character assasinations , Slander libel inuendos and lawyers and such..
Hopefully all parties making such claims are prepared for such a commitment .

End of story






Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Spokane1

Dear Reiyuki,

Let us discuss the logic board for a few days and maybe I can draft something up and figure out what is going on.

There are only 8 IC's, one Transistor, and a Voltage Regulator. Six of the IC's are the 74HC123 one shot timers in two groups. There is a partially used 74AC14. The last 8-pin DIP I can't make out, but it seems to be heavily utilized. It is on the extreme left hand side of the board.

I'm not sure where the board gets it's power or how many rails (different voltages) are being used (Probably only one). It is easy to see the data cables that go to the H-Bridge and the Backend rectifier. Determining which pins do what may take some time. Setup boards like this sometimes have their own power supplies, but this one has the terminals removed. which makes me suspect that the power supply is someplace else. For the load involved probably 300 mA at 5 volts would be more than plenty.

Graham said that only 25% of the components present were actually being used. The Ring Timer in the lower right corner seems to be connected at only one location. This sub circuit has six trim pots.  The other Ring timer in the upper left corner seems to be the work horse, but it doesn't have any trim pots. To me this implies that the timing is fixed rather that variable.

I'm going to have to put in an order for IC's to DigiKey and I would like to take the best shot at getting the right parts.

I have higher resolution photos of the ones that are attached.

Spokane1

TinselKoala

Quote from: ramset on July 11, 2016, 07:00:18 PM
Being discussed here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20199-energy-conference-graham-gunderson.html


there was some mention of a Mcfree MO ...but all is speculative ATM ,
and just to save the ink

No I don't think he is running his house on it "yet" ,but all will be open sourced !!


respectfully
Chet K

All will be open sourced! For a small fee of only two million dollars !!!

http://www.energeticforum.com/290549-post32.html

1. Replicate if you want to but it's a moving target. No point in drafting schematics, since everything will be changed.
2. When he gets around to it....
3. Won't answer "a lot of technical questions" or "teach advanced electronics" -- but some areas of "it" are advanced...
4. No further demos until he can "close the loop" --- so don't hold your breath.
5. He doesn't know why his system works. But has some interesting measurement observations.... which will be shared "later".
6. Wants to start selling stuff for "general OU work".  Also wants to advance his technical interest... in music.
7. The technology is FOR SALE.  Only two million dollars gets the whole bundle, including 40 hours of "training". Instrumentation not included.

Welcome to the new definition of "Open Source", only 2 million dollars ! And overunity requires not only an apparatus, but also "training".  Training on how to get your own instruments to report overunity results, maybe? Training ... from someone who doesn't know why his system works? That gets a ROFL for sure.