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Faraday paradox revisited,magnetic field rotation question.

Started by PolaczekCebulaczek, August 05, 2016, 04:09:24 PM

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PolaczekCebulaczek

QuoteThe charge will exist the same as if the detector were rotating around a stationary magnet.
A charge separation exists when something moves through a magnetic field even if the field is of constant intensity.

even if this "something" is not a conductor? like a plastic charged ball? It would still be experiencing a force? I just want to be sure...

also marinov charged plastic disk:

lumen

I like the experiment.

It appears that a moving charge in empty space will create a "B" field but a moving "B" field in empty space does not create a charge it only causes the charge to move to cancel the "B" field.

I might be over stepping my understanding.

PolaczekCebulaczek

QuoteI might be over stepping my understanding.

This is getting complicated,its why I started this topic, hall sensor has magnetic field (doe to current flow) and when is rotating around charged disk, hall will produce electric field (just like a spinning magnet would) and experience an electric force from stationary disk however no magnetic field from disk and no hall effect detected. Magnetic field its not electric field viewed from different frame of reference as we are lead to believe. I still cant understand why spinning magnet can produce inducted electric field (test charge will see it) or emf and yet no current induction in stationary disk,I need to perform experiments with iron and ceramic(non conductive) magnets to find more.

allcanadian

What is the truth when the truth is unacceptable?.


The truth is very simple even if it is unacceptable to most, the Primary Fields (Electric, Magnetic and Gravic) are tied to the source which created them but are a property of the space surrounding them. If a cork in a lake oscillates creating waves in the water are the waves a property of the cork?, well no that is absurd. The waves are a property of the water created by the oscillating cork. The cork can be rotated and yet the waves do not rotate with the cork... Do you understand?.
The cork is the source and the waves created by the cork in the water the field and the lake water external EM waves modified by the waves from the cork.


The Primary Fields are tied to the source but stationary in the space relative to the axis of rotation. The field is stationary around the source and moves with the source but does not rotate with the source... because the field is stationary. I have no idea how in the hell everyone can make something so fundamentally simple so complicated. Assume the field is stationary relative to the source and everything works... so what's the problem?


Here is your proof, tie some thread onto a the most powerful magnet you have so the magnet is free to rotate on the axis of the poles. Now let the magnet hang from the thread 1 mm away from a thick copper or aluminum plate. You will find there is zero drag due to eddy currents on the axis of rotation and it rotates freely but there is huge drag due to the motion of every other axis... what does this tell you?.


The field is stationary with respect to source which created it and I have spun free floating magnets up on axis to 5000 RPM 1mm away from a 1" think aluminum plate with no measured drag and no eddy current generation, why? because the field is stationary with respect to the source and does not rotate with it that's why.


AC
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PolaczekCebulaczek

Quoteso what's the problem?

the problem is: why there is E field around spinning magnet (detected by test charge) if field does not rotate.