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InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?

Started by hartiberlin, October 31, 2016, 08:35:37 PM

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r2fpl

Very strange situation. There is no presentation from people who got to test. Maybe is total secret. It looks bad.

MileHigh

It looks like Magnacoaster.  It's a "50% down, wait for four months" down payment scam.  Everything so far has been a build-up to this moment.  You build a prop, make a web site, do a YouTube video, make claims that there are beta test sites, make fake promises that you are going to deliver more free demo systems, and then after all that build-up you change the terms to a 50% down payment before shipping.  Get as many down payments as possible and then vacate your little apartment, cancel your cell phone, and then just go find another apartment to live in.  If 100 people send you down payments of 1500 Euros, then you have 150,000 Euros.  You can live off of that stolen money for a few years.  You are not a big enough scam to have he local government or law enforcement chase after you.  The chances of people half-way around the world chasing after you are very slim.

I know where the guy got his inspiration.

Zephir

Today it's impossible to make money with free energy scam: the customer lawyers would eat you alive. On the contrary, try to imagine, that thousands of free energy deniers will send you fake orders with requirement for test - this will undoubtedly ruin your business. Which preemptive measure will you apply in such a case?

MileHigh

Of course you can make money with a free energy scam.  There are countless examples.  The nature of human psychology falls on a bell curve.  There are always people at one end of the bell curve that will believe in things like this and submit their down payments.  That is the only thing these people are interested in and they will ignore all requests to test the machine.  Nobody is going to spend 4000 Euros on a lawyer for a 1500 Euro order.  Human psychology in relation to large numbers of people does not lie, and it is there to be exploited in many ways.

Scorch

Not necessarily a scam. There may actually be very good reason for not being able to produce and deliver many systems for free as this would certainly be very costly for a startup company.

BUT; the company SHOULD be able to provide a "test drive" unit for a thorough examination.
Especially for somebody like Stefan and these forums for purposes of independent confirmation of system performance which would certainly help to increase their orders and bring in investors.

And a test unit can always be returned back to the company which should make an honorable offer to provide this test unit just as a vehicle dealer will provide a free test drive and examination of its product.

And since it does appear to be based on older known technologies, there should not be any secrets.
The company also claims delivery vehicles will be powered by this system so where are those images and videos?

There really does need to be performance reports from third parties and so far, no such reports or customer reviews as promised in an email as follows-

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On 2017-01-02 13:10, Info wrote:
Thank you mr Rodney, of course. We'll have a prototype in our office so everyone can see it at work.
Just follow the website for the neweset info.
Regards, Jakov

On 2.1.2017. 18:48, rod@rodscontracts.com wrote:
Thank you for your timely response. :)

I do require that I examine and trial a system for evaluation and possible purchase of at least one unit before consideration of any major investment for the establishment of a manufacturing or distributor facility.

So; please stay in touch and inform me when these systems become available for the US and and I do understand the need to go slow with this type of new product so I will certainly maintain patience and I wish you a happy new year to you and yours.

Plus I will maintain positive, source field energy thoughts for you, your company and this endeavor. :)

Kindest regards;
Rodney.


On 2017-01-02 02:03, Info wrote:
Hello mr Rod, thank you for contacting us at Innovatehno,
Eventually it will. We want to go slow with this.
Thank you for the suggestion, we will make changes to the website, this is just for starters.

As for business,
I am sending you now some basic information about opening a sister company:

You would need a minimum of 700 000 € of your own money, no banks or 3rd parties.
If it is possible for the sister company to be named as ours, for example Innovatehno Cambodia it would be great but if not there won't be no problem.

A workshop of 500 m2-700 m2

We would then send you the belt conveyor drive system with all the parts necessary for production which you will co-finance of course.

You would obtain 80% of the parts from your market, and we will send the other 20% to you.(special materials for the "heart" of the machine).

One of our people would have to be there as a supervisor for at least six months who you would pay.

We would have to sign mostly standard "sister companies agreement/contract" in your country.
And at the end we would split the selling profit 50%-50%

Regards, Jakov Brkic

On 31.12.2016. 20:49, rod@rodscontracts.com wrote:
Hello; how are you? I am fine. :)

I just want to let you know that I am personally very interested in your system and hoping this system will eventually be distributed in the US.
I am the originator of a small appliance service company in Colorado and might even be a possible distributor and/or service provider in this rural area east of Denver.
I will be keeping an eye on your site and videos and I do suggest that you might want to add a customer review section to your site as well as more photographs of systems and delivery vehicles powered by these systems.

Please acknowledge receipt of this message.

Kindest regards;
Rodney.

1-303-809-4229
www.rodsonctracts.com

So; yeah, still waiting for independent confirmation or at least, a client review page on their site as well as more details about how the system actually works.
Not going to buy without at least a basic knowledge of what is being offered. Not going to invest without a THOROUGH knowledge of the offer.

Show me the working system and I would consider buying it. Show me the actual design and potential market and I might consider building them for local distribution.

Kindest regards;

}:>


Quote from: tsl on March 01, 2017, 12:21:10 PM
Overunity claim + advance payment + Stefan not getting his promised unit = SCAM