InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?

[Zeitmaschine]

About the Thestatikas:
Yes, they do not use the machines to power their homes. They use power from the grid and have some wind and solar power.

How do you know? Did you visit them?

1) It was a Scam all along to get more people. But actually some points speak against this.

Get people for what?

2) Energy was generated, but it was in the beginning not known from where, and in the end was just a galvanic reaction.

A galvanic reaction that produced 1KW for hours?

Remember how Baumann clearly explained, that it only worked with two different metals being used. He also explained that there are many many metal layers in the big pots.

Could be distraction. Could be he made-up something just to answer pushy questions.

3) It did get some energy "from the air", like Baumann explained. If it was from atmospheric electricity (similar to Plauson), this principle cannot be scaled up and is therefore practically and economically not a solution.

This is illogical. Build ten small 1KW machines and you will get 10KW instead of 1KW.

When they realized this they stopped. They themselves said, the bigger machines did not perform as expected.

They stopped building bigger machines because the smaller ones were working good enough for their needs?

Meanwhile, here's a little photo of one of my Bonetti machines, making 20+ cm sparks. And this _can_ be reproduced, by anyone who actually pays attention to the details I have given elsewhere:

Then the question is, how much voltage is needed to get the power amplification effect in the condensers? Maybe it is not the high voltage but pulsing high voltage in combination of special designed Leyden jars? There must be a good reason for the metallic sectors on the Testatika disks, because a sectorless Bonetti machine would be far more easier to build.

[memoryman]

Zeitmaschine:
capacitors/condensers do NOT amplify power or energy. Neither do gears, pulleys, flywheels. NOTHING does. You ca change energy but not generate it.
Static electricity has a very low volumetric energy density; hence large machines are not practical.

[Zeitmaschine]

Harold Aspden states otherwise. Not my fault.

[memoryman]

Interesting how you get 'fault' into the discussion. Fault implies some form/quantity of morality.
Just because someone makes a claim does not make it true.

[ARMCORTEX]

Harold Aspden states otherwise. Not my fault.

You do not even comprehend what Harold Aspden meant, you do not know how to implement his findings.

This thread can be resumed by the simple words: "I want to believe".

People here are in a bad state of mind, bad people, unproductive in life, undriven, confused. They lie to themselves that they understand complex phenomenon of why and how a device should work (even if the device is 100% fraud). They hang onto false hope, if you take away their hope by pointing out weakness in the story they react violently.