InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?

[memoryman]

Stefan, it's because this 'belief' you and many others have WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE, that there is even the slightest chance this may be true, that allows scammers like this to be rewarded. If you really want to throw your money away, do it to a worthy cause.

[markdansie]

No personal experience. There have been numerous scams on 'free energy' and 'OU' devices and the scammers do not want to be exposed.

Hi Memoryman


I have had first hand experience many times with angry scammers once they realized they would be exposed. Here are a few examples:
1. In Australia I had my family including my young daughters threatened
2. In the USA I narrowly escaped an assault with an crowbar wielding crazed inventor
3. Also in the USA I was rushed out of my hotel once and sent to a safe location as a gunman was on his way to shoot me.
4. In South Africa I was threatened with prison
5. Publicly everyone has seen over the years the attempted character assignations of me, many still go on. Many of those people in the past have disappeared, or are in jail.
6. Finally the endless threat of lawsuits, still waiting.

I have to exercise care and have turned down invites into some countries like Pakistan, I would also exercise care dealing with any European Eastern Block Country unless it is a reputable scientist or company.

I really should write a book one day about these crazy free energy adventures. Some very funny stories of how some scammers managed to make their escape from the investors once they were exposed.

The vast majority of people are good people and many are thankful when we point out how they mis- measured something or the guidance I and my engineer friends give them.

This latest one has some of the usual red flags.

1. Cancelled appointments
2. Non delivery
3. Contact difficulties
4. No independent or peer reviewed evidence

Kind Regards
Mark 

[tomd]

I fail to see how anybody has been scammed. It clearly states on their website:

"The conditions of the free trial:

30 days for free trial, if you are not satisfied and have been using it for 15 days, we will come and pick up the generator back for free.
If you use it for 16-30 days then you will pay for the return shipping a symbolic amount so we get compensated at least a little bit. Because there are a lot of mean people out there, and they can just start ordering for fun.
How to pay:

You can pay during or after the trial period ends"

I think the more likely scenario is they have been stopped by the authorities. This seems to be the case worldwide. For example:

Some years ago two Cairns (Australia) inventors (Lou Brits and John Christie) developed an electrical generator they called the Lutec 1000 free energy machine. It was tested by SGS the world's leading inspection, verification, testing and certification company. A copy of that report was on the internet however it seems to have been removed (funny that). I did manage to find a copy embedded in a pdf file here: http://www.ostfalia.de/export/sites/default/de/pws/turtur/images/3_Beispiel-Gerxte.pdf. They did indeed find that it produced more energy than it consumed. In fact 10 times the energy that it consumed. After the report was made public nothing more has been heard of Lutec. Here's a video that was filmed by one of the TV channels at the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Gt_Zh9yMM.

[markdansie]

Hi Tond
The Lutec device was around for many years after that report. Unfortunately they never produced a working device that could be independently tested or validated. Other parties replicated it (with permission) and failed.


Normally the authorities step in when it is a know scam to stop potential investors being ripped of. Like in the case of Mike Brady and his magnetic motor.


Governments around the world welcome energy devices. If people were being stopped why is Elon Musk so successful ? Not only does he make electric cars but the solar panels as well.


The Arabian Oil interests and many governments are investing billions into solar, wind and other commercially viable energy technologies. Over 100 billion a year is being invested into energy storage research and developments.


So the argument that people are being stopped is quite frankly bullshit. The opposite is happening. A 1 billion dollar fund was recently established by some of the wealthiest people in the world searching for alternative and free energy.


Kind Regards
Mark

[tomd]

Governments are paying lip service to alternative energy sources. Everybody knows that wind solar etc will never replace fossil fuels (coal , oil and gas). The wind doesn't blow continuously. The sun doesn't shine continuously. Good luck driving a solar powered vehicle from a to b. If you get a few rainy days - that's it. They will always remain an alternative means of energy generation. Look what has happened to South Australia where there has been an over reliance placed on so called "green energy". Coal remains the main source of base load power.
How successful is Elton Musk? His cars are out of the price range of the majority of people and therefore offer little opposition to the main car manufacturers. Same goes for the powercell - too expensive to justify the installation. As I understand it his vehicles run on batteries which still need to be charged anyway - Not really what Lutec was offering.

When you say Lutec never produced a working device that could be independently tested. How did SGS test it? I very much doubt they would have written that report if they weren't physically able to witness the machine in operation.