Magnets, motion and measurement

[ayeaye]

Norman, you may guess, writing here, is not a fun part of my life.

I'm talking to people elsewhere who have made real working overunity devices. But it is impossible to explain even trivial things here about overunity, then how to go further.

[Floor]

Hi Norman

Your video, is more like a snapshot (short length).

Would you explain the magnet motions and their polar orientations for us.
I don't know what it demonstrates ?

        regards
               floor

PS @ all readers
   My "WARNING POSTER" is just a statement / humor about what is considered the impossible..

[Floor]

@ all readers

There exists a wide variety of ATTEMPTS at O.U. with magnets,  through what is often refered to
as asymetry of the fields.  You tube is full of them.

The classic example of this sort of device is called the "V gate" design.

Some V gate designs are rotary, others are linear.  There are many variatioms.  Some old, some
newer ones. 

Nearly all of the "magnet motor" designs I have seen over the years are some variation of that idea. 

Newtons laws of motion are valid and ever present in those designs. Those designs only continue
to move due some amount of momentum and then they stop.  No O.U. there.

The magnet itnteractions I have focused upon in this topic are of a fundamentally defferent methodology.  Newtons laws of motion are just as present in their operation as in any other
design.   

However Newtons laws are to a lerge extent, the basis of the functioning of the magnetic force shunting / redirecting /shielding designs, although there is more to it / it's more complex than simply that.

IT THIS TOPIC the phrase "magnetic field" referres only to that three dimensional region around
a magnet in which a magnetic force is measured.  The topic coes not fundamentally concern itself
with field theory.

I have never seen / heard of a truly sphereical field around a permanent magnet.  The field is
torroidal.  Basically  dougnut shaped.  Long and thin if surrounding a long thin bar magnet.
Flattened out if surrounding a wafer magnet.  Then there are ring magnets horse shoe magnets
and so on.   Magnetic fields as they are generally found in our world anr thing but sphereical. 

Force from a permanent magnet does not deminish in accord with  the inverse square law. NEVER !

This is some of what has concerend me in the topic of late.

             Much more to say.

                 But later
            best wishes
           stay well
        l
              floor

[norman6538]

The Floor Twist Drive/magnetic power is clearly demonstrated when the magnet comes down close to the twistable magnet below making it turn. And the magnets do not smack together and get stuck.
The best way to see this is to make this simple device and see for yourself but use small rectangular ceramic magnets. At first I glued 2 magnets to flat tongue depressor/craft sticks - 1. up vertical and 2. at 45 degrees then place them flat on a table and slide the edges next to each other. In one polarity they will repel and in another polarity they will attract. Then I glued a dowel to one magnet to allow the one stick/magnet to rotate and made the Floor 101 video showing the twisting.
At the end of the video the white paint on the magnets is magnetic south.

This video shows  the second part  of the Floor principle. It only shows undoing that small attraction that results after the twist. 
But it also shows the balance scale that is heavy on the right which then drops as the magnetic attraction on the left is reduced when the magnets are untwisted.

Make this simple Floor machine and you will become a believer.

When Floor 101 is understood I'll proceed to Floor 102.

Norman

[ayeaye]

There exists a wide variety of ATTEMPTS at O.U. with magnets,  through what is often refered to
as asymetry of the fields.  You tube is full of them.

The classic example of this sort of device is called the "V gate" design.

No. V-gate can fully be modeled by the Coulomb model, and has no overunity whatsoever. That is, the concept can be modeled by the Coulomb model. And it thus doesn't use asymmetry of the field at all. Whether in the reality there is overunity, is another question, but this principle is not right for making overunity setups.

Internet is full of all kind of V-gate devices yes. But i have not seen not a single one that uses asymmetry of the field. My experiments and the replication of it by Telecom that show gain of energy, are based on asymmetry of the field.

They have nothing whatsoever to do with any variety of V-gate, tri-gate or anything such.

The Newton law is an inverse square law, the same as the Coulomb law. In some cases and to some extent it applies to magnets, but if the fields of the poles differ from spherical, then such magnets also differ from the Newton law, and from the Coulomb model for magnetic fields. I have not heard anyone talking about Newton law regarding the magnets, Newton did not propose his law for magnets, Coulomb did. Thus it is correct to talk about the Coulomb law and the Coulomb model.