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Overunity Machines Forum



TD replications

Started by Floor, November 18, 2016, 11:14:23 AM

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dieter

Then I would suggest to measure the push with each measurement step of the rotation, that was 5mm, maybe try to do finer steps due to the peaks.

telecom

Quote from: gotoluc on February 10, 2017, 09:35:58 AM
Hi telecom,

It would be great if there was twice the movement. However, I don't see that.
I made a video just for you to count them.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpBaeJD38HI

Regards

Luc

Ok, I guess it was a wishful thinking on my end!
In this case you probably need to calculate the work balance for the linear movement to come to the initial position.
Regards

conradelektro

If you do a replication please do compare output-POWER and input-POWER (and not FORCE or WORK)

See: http://overunity.com/17097/magnet-force-shield/msg499715/#msg499715 (concerning POWER versus WORK, TIME is of the essence)

FORCE

WORK = FORCE * DISTANCE

POWER = WORK over TIME

Also see: http://overunity.com/17097/magnet-force-shield/msg499638/#msg499638 (concerning a magnetic shield, if you plan one in your replication; note, a magnet is also a "known material")

Greetings, Conrad

gotoluc

That really would complicate measurements to level that may not be possible since if the 11mm magnet is allowed to move while the rotating magnet is moving in its first  55mm of travel the rotating magnet force needed to pull in goes down as the 11mm magnet moves. And once the 11mm magnet has reached it's 5.5mm center the rotating magnet requires 0 grams to move through.

A very complex measurement setup would be needed to probably find it all comes to the same.

The way I did it (in steps) measures all maximums. By holding down the 11mm magnet while the rotating magnet moves in, the rotating magnet needs the most pull force to pull it in the first 55mm and the opposite happens once I release the 11mm magnet and hold it down now the rotating needs maximum force to be pulled out of the remaining 55mm of travel.

Hope you understand

Luc


gotoluc

Quote from: telecom on February 10, 2017, 01:10:45 PM
In this case you probably need to calculate the work balance for the linear movement to come to the initial position.

That's the beauty of this design, there is no work "balance" needed for the next position (cycle)... as the fist cycle goes through the next cycle is right there and needs exactly the same as the first cycle.

Luc