Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.

[shylo]

Hi Dieter, My understanding is very limited, but I find that on my set-up, which puts out AC
that if you input a DC voltage at the point where the AC wave is at zero, this reduces the lenz effect.
Also the input of the DC is used for drive.
My coils are all air core, it might not work with cores.
artv

[aether22]

Now, this implies, logically, that if I had a magnet that is reducing its field strength, the closer it gets to the coil will reduce instead of increase the field strenght on proximation, and likewise increase the field strength while moving away, or in simple terms, it would be attracted when getting closer and pushed away when already moving away.


Or in even simpler terms: it would be accellerated by the "Lenz Effect"


To be discussed is, whether it is possible to build such a Magnet. In fact, I had some success. No selfrunner, but defnitely reversal of the current flow, pne of the fundamental criteria.


Others are: Inducer must lower the total fieldstrenght when getting closer to the coil, but must retain axial polarity orientation and also a minimum of stength to be affected by the reactive Field at all.

Hi Deiter, sorry your idea won't work.


You see the action of induction is to oppose change, it is like electromagnetic inertia, and if it opposes change here too as it will, it will tact as a brake.


So the induction from a decrease is strength is irrelevant unless we know polarity decreasing, so the permanent magnet flips the polarity along with flipping the action, as such the induction is what happens of a collapse of the opposite polarity doing the opposite thing, as such we wind up right back where we started as each one flips the induced polarity.


John

[dieter]

Shylo, thank you, interesting, but you must choose the right DC polarity then, then of course it will drive the rotor. It is an intetesting, although diffrent concept.


Aether22, thank you, with all the respect, it is obvious to me that you don't understand induction, nor what I was talking about. "Polarity decreasing"?
wtf. Anyone who doesn't understand that induction without a polarity flip of the inductor is perfectly possible, at the cost of lower efficiency per cm3, should not post in this thread, thank you.

[citfta]

Dieter, you are incorrect about current reversing during magnetic field collapse.  I am saying that based on over 50 years experience in electronics.  Here is a link to a thread where we discuss this at length.  If you will take the time to read it, it will help you see what is really going on.  Since you apparently don't want anyone posting that does not agree with you this will be my only post.  I will not get into an argument with you about your mistaken idea.

http://overunity.com/16203/inductive-kickback/

However your idea about changing the magnetic strength of a coil as it approaches and recedes from a magnet may have some interesting effects.  I feel that aspect of your idea is worth pursuing.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[tinman]

Dieter, you are incorrect about current reversing during magnetic field collapse.  I am saying that based on over 50 years experience in electronics.  Here is a link to a thread where we discuss this at length.  If you will take the time to read it, it will help you see what is really going on.  Since you apparently don't want anyone posting that does not agree with you this will be my only post.  I will not get into an argument with you about your mistaken idea.

http://overunity.com/16203/inductive-kickback/

However your idea about changing the magnetic strength of a coil as it approaches and recedes from a magnet may have some interesting effects.  I feel that aspect of your idea is worth pursuing.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Carroll

I think you are mixed up here.
I do not see any comment by Dieter saying that the current reverses during magnetic field collapse.
What i do see is Dieter saying that the current flow reverses when the magnetic field strength decreases in the inductor-and he is correct.
Inductive kickback,and AC induction are two totally different things,when it comes to current flow.

As a magnet approaches an inductor/ coil,the current will flow in one direction,and when the magnet leaves the inductor/coil,the current will flow in the other direction.


Brad