Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi all, Hi dieter, this is all that matters,"That is true, but even with a lower current flowing, the stronger magnet still flies further away. And that's exactly the point. Less input, more output."
Some can spin a web of confusion and by the end of the day, it can be the size of an encyclopedia, ignore those, they only try to impede the development of something different.
They will try and get one to bury ones nose in books and equations and soon, we forget all about that stronger magnet flying further away and we try to defend what's in a book.
Hope you get my points here, as they are very important to avoid the webs.
I've built an air coil motor in the past, with neo magnet rotors on each side of thin coils.
With one coil powered by a given voltage input, watts input was say for example, 10 watts at a given rpm.
I could easily feel the shaft power with my hand and it was not much to speak of.
By adding more coils in series and raising the voltage at each step and maintaining the same rpm and wattage input, the shaft power increased dramatically, barely able to hold the shaft by hand without burning my fingers.
I also imagine this can be done by series/parallel coil arrangements, to lessen the need to raise the voltage too high and we could still keep the same rpm and wattage input, while raising observable shaft power to great levels.
You see, something simple can only be hidden, if it is over complicated by subterfuge.
peace love light

[MileHigh]

That's correct!  no speed measurement in that clip.
The clip is about the part you wrote (bold) below.

Here is what I said, "Measuring velocity is such a critical measurement that I am almost shocked that I have never seen someone do it around here by optical means."

For some strange reason, you are making a very clumsy attempt at bait-and-switch.  I sat through your clip for eight minutes looking for an optical speed measurement and there was none.  Your English skills are impeccable, go back and read the earlier postings and you should be baffled also.

[dieter]

Indeed, we should get some "Hoffman-Lenses" to demask those Agent-Smithes, telling us to forget and get back into row with the other cattle ^^


Coils in series is also very promesing. In a coil, current flows only when it is loaded. As they say the current is following the voltage. What is then loaded can be regained in the collapsing field.


Whether huge PMs or huge coils, this makes the rotor heavy, but that's ok, see it as a flywheel.

[MileHigh]

Hi all, Hi dieter, this is all that matters,"That is true, but even with a lower current flowing, the stronger magnet still flies further away. And that's exactly the point. Less input, more output."
Some can spin a web of confusion and by the end of the day, it can be the size of an encyclopedia, ignore those, they only try to impede the development of something different.
They will try and get one to bury ones nose in books and equations and soon, we forget all about that stronger magnet flying further away and we try to defend what's in a book.
Hope you get my points here, as they are very important to avoid the webs.

The above is nonsense talk.  Don't be a zombie on autopilot and try to suggest that what I am saying is wrong.  What is absolutely wrong is to not even consider waste heat energy on a web forum that is all about doing experiments and understanding energy issues.

Here is the simple fact:  You get more output because your changed the configuration from lots of waste heat and small output to less waste heat and larger output.  You are on an energy forum, are you suggesting that you can't understand this simple concept?

Plus I actually outline an experiment for you to do to prove to yourself with measurements that no extra energy is coming from the stronger magnet and the apparent "extra energy" comes from the fact that you reduced your waste heat and increased your useful output.  Anybody with a DSO and a ruler and a scale can do this experiment and prove if for themselves.

Don't tell me that I am "spinning a web of confusion" and that you can't master these very simple concepts.  I don't believe it, you can master these very simple concepts.

[gotoluc]

Dear SkyWatcher

I hope you trust me and my real physical experiments I have done in the recent past.

My post on page 1 (link below) contains the explanation and real tests to explain why this effect Dieter has put forward will not achieve OU
http://overunity.com/17178/simple-experiment-extraction-of-energy-from-permanent-magnets/msg501793/#msg501793[/font][/size]

If Dieter does not believe my independent test results he will have to build the correct test device to measure the travel distance (weight) of the coil against gravity with a fixed (measured) Joule energy discharge to the coil and compare it to the distance conventional theory says it can travel.

Only then the claim of this topic "Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets" can be correct.

Without these measurements there is no use arguing what is correct.

I would be the first one to embrace such a thing but since I have already done the tests and measurement in the past I'm not going backwards.

Kind regards

Luc