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Overunity Machines Forum



The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

Started by evostars, March 18, 2017, 04:49:26 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: ramset on April 07, 2017, 08:36:32 PM
Zephir
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have you done work there which could help guide  experimenters towards a true anomaly ?
(snip)

He has been asked many times to produce evidence of a build or experiment of his own and he always dodges the question, just as he has done now.
So I have concluded that he has not done and cannot do what you are asking. Am I wrong? Could be... let's see the proof. Linking to Infinity SAV Team as "evidence"?  I don't think so. They violate Conservation of Miracles.    ;)


TinselKoala

Quote from: Zephir on April 07, 2017, 09:17:25 PM
It isn't, which becomes evident, once you attempt to answer the question: "And what this bed is testing?".

The testbed is always supposed to test some theory of function. The scientific method is always based on falsification of theory.
The blind random tinkering is not falsification of theory, i.e. not scientific approach.

This bed is testing whether or not a TBF coil will work in the most basic rudimentary JT circuit with PNP transistor and many LEDs in series. The hypothesis under test is this: If I connect a low-inductance TBF pancake coil in a standard PNP JT circuit, it will work just about as well as an ordinary solenoidal or toroidal coil. The test fails to reject this hypothesis.

I pointed out that the toroid is not connected to avoid confusion, since I've used this testbed to test many different coils, transistors and loads, and one cannot see clearly in the photo that it is not connected. I imagine that there will be one or two people reading this that could be surprised and even interested that a TBF pancake coil will work in this circuit.

Don't try to teach an old boy how to suck eggs, credulous Zephir. If you think this is "blind random tinkering" ... let's see some work of your own that is any different.  I've lost count of how many times you have dodged this challenge.


Have you tried jumping off a building and flapping your arms to see if you can fly yet? I'll bet you haven't.

And let's see some real proof that a "scalar bubble" exists, and that the effect the circuit you posted _might_ demonstrate is caused by some such entity and not by something else already known to conventional physics.


MileHigh

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 07, 2017, 09:10:21 PM
Infinity SAV Team? You are really hilarious. You might as well cite Veproject for your "overunity" reference.

They did not pass my quality control system either.  lol

Do you want to be a distributor?

QuoteDistributor agrees to the day of submitting the Fossil Fuel Free Generator to pay a deposit amount of 100,000 US dollars.

In the musings of my mind there is a kind of Charlie's Angels team of svelte yet shapely women that fight for truth and justice and the American Way.  There are five of these powerful women and they call themselves Luck Force Five.  Think of Russ Meyer making movies of their exploits.

You can just imagine this team of beautiful intelligent women "busting" Infinity SAV Team - Luck Force Five vs. Infinity SAV Team.

Magluvin

If we measure a pancake coil for inductance, would that necessarily be the value calculated with measured capacitance of the bifi windings, give the actual value of the resonant freq? Or would it be a wider band than a single layer bifi rod coil?

Like if we measured the inductance of just a couple turns on the inner dia vs measuring the inductance of a couple outer turns, would that measurement be the same?

Then if we calculated those measurements with measured capacitance, would we find the same resonant freq value? 

Was just thinking if maybe the highest resonant peak may have a kinda wider bandwidth than say a single layer cylinder bifi coil which should have a fairly sharper peak.

Had bought some RS flat speaker cable some time back when a RS store closed, and cheap, with some ideas to fiddle with in this area. Can split the wire pair down the middle to make the bifi pair. Was thinking of the flat wire would have more capacitance vs round wire.

Mags

evostars

Quote from: Magluvin on April 07, 2017, 11:15:40 PM
If we measure a pancake coil for inductance, would that necessarily be the value calculated with measured capacitance of the bifi windings, give the actual value of the resonant freq? Or would it be a wider band than a single layer bifi rod coil?

Like if we measured the inductance of just a couple turns on the inner dia vs measuring the inductance of a couple outer turns, would that measurement be the same?

Then if we calculated those measurements with measured capacitance, would we find the same resonant freq value? 

Was just thinking if maybe the highest resonant peak may have a kinda wider bandwidth than say a single layer cylinder bifi coil which should have a fairly sharper peak.

Had bought some RS flat speaker cable some time back when a RS store closed, and cheap, with some ideas to fiddle with in this area. Can split the wire pair down the middle to make the bifi pair. Was thinking of the flat wire would have more capacitance vs round wire.

Mags
flat speaker wire. Sounds excellent! it will give bigger capacity, but its also important how close the bifilar windings  wires are. If the coating isnt to thick...

also,  when using multiple bifilar pancake coils on top of eachother,  the capacitance changes. the dielectric fields start interacting with eachother.