The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

[citfta]

Hi Zephir,

It appears you have been doing a lot of studying searching for Overunity.  I also started about 10 years ago looking into the area of OU after finding a website about the John Bedini SSG.  Since I have over 50 years experience in electronics I wanted to investigate his claims.  What I learned is the SSG is simply a very efficient circuit for moving a wheel with magnets on it. It might interest you to know the Bulova Accutron watch that was invented in the late 1950s and introduced on the market in 1960 uses the almost exact same circuit.  It just uses that circuit to vibrate a tuning fork instead of moving a wheel.

Like you, I also got caught up in all the pseudo science jargon of moving the aether and scalar waves etc.  Ten years later I now know most of that is just hype to sell books.  Those words are used to impress the uneducated and to lead them away from any real research.  I don't know of a single person that ever got the MEG to work.  I know someone that is a personal friend of Tom Beardon and he doesn't have a working MEG either.

Getting an education from YouTube videos is not the way to learn about real electronics.  You need to take the time to really learn how things work if you expect to be able to accomplish anything.  I compare that to a person that wants to go exploring new territory but doesn't want to take the time to learn how to use a map or even study to see what areas are already explored.  Over and over again I see someone posting here and on other OU type sites about some great "new" discovery they think they have made.  When in fact they have just discovered a well know function or operation of a device or circuit.

I wrote all that to post this.  What MileHigh is telling you about the pancake bifiler coil is correct.  I am not saying that because we are great friends or something.  In fact I don't agree with him in a couple of areas which we won't go into here. But his explanations for the way a coil works are correct.  I have found no evidence to believe there is anything else going on with the bifiler coil.

Just so you will understand where I am coming from I DO believe OU may be possible.  I have built many many circuits and machines over the last 10 years looking for OU.  I am not a naysayer about OU.  But I think we have to forget all the nonsense posted on YouTube and other places and stick to what the evidence shows while looking for new evidence that may show us more.  Throwing away the old evidence when there is no new evidence is not very smart.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[evostars]

But why the plain resonance should create it?

Good question.

[Zephir]

I am not a naysayer about OU.  But I think we have to forget all the nonsense posted on OU and other places and stick to what the evidence shows while looking for new evidence that may show us more.  Throwing away the old evidence when there is no new evidence is not very smart.

New evidence emerges each day - it just emerges in private sector, which you cannot get more information from (Akula, Infinity SAV team, etc.) Don't expect, someone of these guys will kindly tell you, how his device is actually working. We must find it together here again from scratch. Of course, you can just wait for new evidence outside this forum - but don't expect, that someone will give you more information than for example Akula did. And I'm not throwing old evidence at all - instead of it, I'm just explaining you here, what the old and new overunity devices have in common and how to explain/interpret their similarity in most straightforward way.

[evostars]

this topic thread seems to have stirred alot.
a lot of posts in less then a week.

but a lot of it, is simply off topic. I dont like this. 

please make your own topics,  where you can discuss them.

[nelsonrochaa]

Is there any reason to prevent people from having different opinions?
Is there any extra motivation for this type of behavior here demonstrated by a certain element?

For this type of people who think and proclaim their wisdom as absolute there are forums where the word Overunity is not used and where they can demonstrate all their "recital" of information to those who agree with their perspectives.
This is a free opinion site, and I completely agree that there are different opinions, but imposing something as absolute and wanting to force people to eat the same "straw" they eat seems to me a bit altruistic.
Most have already understood the divergent opinions, and now? What do you want more?
What is the concern about our different point of view on a certain subject?
We have already fully understood your opinion. Nothing more to add ...