The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

[MileHigh]

See distributed element model, simulation illustrates, that its behavior cannot be replaced with simple discrete circuit.High Frequency circuit, of course. Metamaterial circuits enable the propagation of waves faster than EM wave inside them and/or against their source - and this is the point, in which the things become interesting for overunity, as they violate the causality of common electromagnetic circuits. These things are commonly known in scientific circles, but until you don't know about them, then you're in position of tribesmen, who are constructing airplanes and jeeps out of palm fronds and bamboo, because they believe, they will bring them cargo and food.

Eventually people are going to get bored with your fantasy talk.

[MileHigh]

When dealing with a subject of such import, why would any self respecting researcher limit him/herself to the limited perspective of the learned.....  Alternative Big Thinkers.....  same question, however, replace the flywheel with a gyroscope.  The learned in their infinite wisdom direct our building apparatus in which the true forces are literally grounded...  The man, in his heyday, recognized this and changed gears, deciding to design, construct and operate linear actuators which produced and transmitted the same forces in a completely different and more effective and useful manner.  Those forces which we put to use are but a reflection of those which are for lack of a better way of putting it, "transmitted into the ground".......

Folk...police yourselves....do your homework before you bring your ideas to the attention of those who will shit on your dreams.

More pie-in-the-sky talk.  My question goes directly to the issue of the understanding of a self-resonating coil and how it works and you throw pies at the sky.

[evostars]

Is the capacitance and the inductance of the Bifilar pancake coil, parallel or series?

A LC circuit with capacitors and inductors, can be made in parallel or series. This has influence on the impedance at its resonant frequency.

But the bifilar pancake coil is a capacitor and inductor, at the same time, in the same space. So it is ONE. it cant be series, and it cant be parallel.

With a capacitor inductor L/C circuit, the dielectric field is stored in a different place (the capacitor), than where the magnetic field (the inductor) is stored.
With the fields divided, we can make them series or parallel, because they are separated in space.

But in a bifilar coil, the fields are generated from within the same space. the dielectric, resides inside the magnetic field, as both are produced from the same bifilar windings.
Therefor, it is ONE.

This resembles a magnet, which has a magnetic field, with inside it the dielectric field (bloch wall).

[web000x]

Is the capacitance and the inductance of the Bifilar pancake coil, parallel or series?

A LC circuit with capacitors and inductors, can be made in parallel or series. This has influence on the impedance at its resonant frequency.

But the bifilar pancake coil is a capacitor and inductor, at the same time, in the same space. So it is ONE. it cant be series, and it cant be parallel.

With a capacitor inductor L/C circuit, the dielectric field is stored in a different place (the capacitor), than where the magnetic field (the inductor) is stored.
With the fields divided, we can make them series or parallel, because they are separated in space.

But in a bifilar coil, the fields are generated from within the same space. the dielectric, resides inside the magnetic field, as both are produced from the same bifilar windings.
Therefor, it is ONE.

This resembles a magnet, which has a magnetic field, with inside it the dielectric field (bloch wall).

I think that in the coil you have distributed impedances that allow for a complex form of propagation.  Look up the stuff that Eric Dollard has explained about TEM vs LMD probagation, LC vs MK.  The dielectric and magnetic components haven't turned into one.  They have just been reduced to existing within the coil structure so that they 'appear' to be one to the observer.  His Theory of Wireless Power book has some good diagrams highlighting this complete propagation, pg35 - Fig 1.


Dave

[TinselKoala]

This was just an counterplea of dumb TinselKoala argumentation, who has said, that overunity doesn't exist, because he never observed it during his experiments. So I did say, with the same logic the electrons also don't exist, because I also never observed them during my experiments.

Now you have descended past folly and comedy and into outright mendacity and utter ignorance. And you admit to using straw-man arguments once again! Do you have no integrity at all? It must be very painful to be you, so insecure in your faulty world-view that you cannot even face your own errors and admit them like a person with self-respect and honesty.

As you well know, there is _plenty_ of evidence that electrons do exist and people have been engineering with them for decades and even centuries. Whether or not YOU have "observed them during your experiments" has nothing to do with the FACT that electrons have been proven to exist and are used in all kinds of devices every day.  This is very different from the case of "overunity".

Besides, I doubt if you have ever actually performed "experiments" of your own at all.... because you have never presented any evidence that you have, and you evidently do not even know how to interpret real experiments and demonstrations performed by others.


Which direction does current flow when the power is removed from a coil? Same direction, or reversed direction? Face the facts and admit your errors, or present evidence OF YOUR OWN to refute the demonstrated facts. Or continue to dodge the question and weasel around your original claim, demonstrating yet again your profound lack of integrity.