The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

[tinman]

 author=Zephir link=topic=17186.msg503736#msg503736 date=1491817369]

The pathoskeptic is everyone who for example says, that overunity doesn't exist, because he never observed it during his tinkering (like @TinselKoala is saying) or that overunity doesn't exist, because it would be utilized already and awarded with Nobel prizes (@MileHigh and others). Such a nonsenses shouldn't be tolerated here...

Well first off,i dont believe TK thinks OU can never be found,but more so that is has not been achieved yet,
Second--MileHigh is correct,in that if anyone was to come up with an OU device,then they most certainly would be up for a Nobel prize-along with the keys to the world.

From perspective of mainstream physicists whole the overunity subject is also mistake and they oppose it wildly, so that the usage of "mistake" word is subjective trolling too.

I dont think mainstream science has anything to offer,in the way of OU devices.
I believe that such devices are hidden away from mainstream science, and the public.

Once the bifilar coil exhibits self-capacitance, then its current after interruption may evolve differently, because it can behave like the capacitor too.

Although all inductors/coils have some self capacitance,the value of that capacitance is far to small to overcome the inductance values of said coil,and so,would never overcome the current flow had,when the source current is disrupted.

The idealized assumptions of mainstream physics trolls therefore will not apply here and only experiments can determine, what we will observe there.

I see that with just 220 odd posts,you must be relatively new here.
I can assure you that those here you think are trolls,are the very same people that have carried out thousands of experiments on the very subject at hand.

Can you be clear on what you believe this bifilar coil will achieve,and exactly what kind of bifilar coil are you referring to?.


Brad

[Zephir]

I don't think mainstream science has anything to offer, in the way of OU devices. I believe that such devices are hidden away from mainstream science, and the public.

The scientists are payed for being informed about all areas of their expertise. They actually know about overunity research very well, I've multiple evidence for it. But they decided to ignore and deny it actively, as it contradicts their own philosophy and religion system. The attitude of TinselKoala may serve as an example: he knows about overunity perfectly, yet he still denies it. The attitude toward overunity is therefore NOT matter of expertise at all. The censorship and dismissal of overunity findings is primarily the matter of public trolls like him, not some secret governmental agents.

I can assure you that those here you think are trolls,are the very same people that have carried out thousands of experiments on the very subject at hand.

The number of experiments doesn't matter, once you're ignorant, who doesn't believe in subject and who therefore doesn't know where to look for it. The replication of overunity finding is actually relatively simple - but you should remain focused to subject, instead of its denial and dismissal.

Although all inductors/coils have some self capacitance, the value of that capacitance is far to small to overcome the inductance values of said coil

This is a matter of geometry only. The capacitance between the two conductors in a bifilar winding (neglecting turn-to-turn effects in a coil) is the same whether the bifilar pair is wound in a coil or in a long straight line. The capacitance per unit length is C = πε0/[cosh-1(D/2R)], where D is the center-to-center spacing of the two round conductors, each of radius R. It could be simplified (Medhurst) to formula C = 0.46 * D (which is why the self-resonanating Kapagen coils are wound of copper pipes empirically).  Inductance of coil can be calculated for example here. The signal velocity in an air-filled transmission line is c = 1/sqrt(LC), and it's impedance is Z = sqrt(L/C).

if anyone was to come up with an OU device,then they most certainly would be up for a Nobel prize-along with the keys to the world

You would die way before its first replication, not to say acceptation. The verification of heliocentric model has been delayed by 160 years, the replication of overunity in electrical circuit has been delayed 145 years (Cook 1871), cold fusion finding 90 years (Panneth/Petters 1926), Woodward drive 26 years, EMDrive 18 years and room superconductivity finding by 45 years (Grigorov 1984).

Why the hell are you believing, you would be recognized and celebrated faster? The scientific ignorance has no limits and its spans multiple centuries.

[tinman]

For those having trouble with the current flow through an inductor,when the source current is interrupted,i have put together a very simple circuit,so as you can check your self.

As you can see by the way the LED 2 is orientated,current flow must remain in the same direction in order for it to remain lit during the off time of the FG(source current).
LED 1 will only be lit during the 50% on time of the FG(The source current)

The red arrows show the current path and direction during the on time of the source current,and the blue arrows show the current path and direction during the off time of the source current.

Hope this helps.

Brad

[ramset]

This poor guy is never gonna get his thread back....

he also has a quieter topic here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20714-magnetic-field-bifilar-pancake-coil.html

@ Zephir
you carpet bomb the OU claims in the house of OU ,saying we close our eyes??

and our science friends too?? [calling them LIARS and Hiders of OU ??

PLEASE JUST ONE
""SEEING OU IS EASY"" experiment

PLEASE ??
atleast the tenth request...

Also sort of on topic claim from Allen[synchro ]

over here
http://overunity.com/17217/investigating-the-claims-of-member-synchro-1/msg503737/#new
there is a 48 magnet video and some nail video's of Allen's
he says there is an anomaly  being shown with the magnet vid

very very low input to do much work
as some here know I ran demolition jobs in NYC and did see many industrial magnets and the HUGE
support power required for them to run

many would love to see this "if real"

[Zephir]

you carpet bomb the OU claims in the house of OU ,saying we close our eyes?

Not we - some people of us do it - and they even trying to "cover" the eyes of their peers (TinselKoala, MileHigh, Ramset  and another trolls).

and our science friends too?? - calling them LIARS and Hiders of OU??

Which "science friends" do you have on mind? The liars and hiders aren't OUR friends in general.

""SEEING OU IS EASY"" experiment

I already linked them also many times: small scale, larger scale, largest scale...