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Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback

Started by Jdo300, November 20, 2006, 01:26:19 AM

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abassign

The autor removed in YouTube the Movie of "unusual motor design". Is possible to find a copy ?
And the movie autor is in this forum ?

Ciao
Adriano

Merv

Hello Adriano. I removed the video as it was generating too much unwanted spam in my inbox. I still have a copy Perhaps  icould arrange a copy for you. Have you read this entire thread yet? This exercise has been well worth while. My creativte ideas have been rekindled. So thats been worth while, for me at least

andy

Hello Merv,

Thanks for responding with your reasoning for removing the videos from YouTube. I understand the spam issue completely having my own website for 10+years.

Anyway, I'm responding to ask if you would be willing to provide me a copy of the 'unusual motor design' video clip so I can look at it more closely. I only saw it once before it was taken down.

You can email it to me if you want: andydidge@pacbell.net

Thanks. I would really like to watch it again...maybe even build one  :)
  -Andy


allcanadian

I just went through a few posts here and something caught my eye. Merv had mentioned that the steorn device had a stepper motor moving the rotor in 1/2 turn increments. This would make perfect sense in a 2 pole machine- A rotor comes into register inducing current in a coil-But when the coil tries to leave register the induced forward current holds it back-this is the work component. So why not stop the rotor completely in register until all forward current has stopped-brilliant! There can be no induction backdrag if there is no current flow, the stepper motor then pushes the rotor out of register- and according to conventional wisdom the stepper motor input to remove the magnet must closely equal the stator coil output so this portion of the cycle is a wash, the approach to register is clearly a gain.
So once again everyone has missed what should be obvious, you change the operating parameters-STOP the rotor at register. My journey began with a simple question- Exactly where is the work required in conventional motors and generators? a simple question few people can correctly answer, I know this because it took me months to get it, and Im no slouch in EM theory.

This is why this forum is priceless, we comment-add our perspective and we all gain. Merv made a comment which led me to a conclusion I had never considered, which now after the fact seems so obvious.
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

gyulasun

Quote from: allcanadian on December 10, 2006, 12:19:06 PM
So once again everyone has missed what should be obvious, you change the operating parameters-STOP the rotor at register. My journey began with a simple question- Exactly where is the work required in conventional motors and generators? 

Ok, you stop the rotor at register. Then the speed of the rotor cannot be really fast because of the move-stop-move-stop sequence and from this it comes the induced voltage in the coils (hence output power) cannot be really high. How can you make it big this is now I ponder on? By using very strong magnets and many turns of wire?
One more thing I do not get:
Quote from: allcanadian on December 10, 2006, 12:19:06 PM
- and according to conventional wisdom the stepper motor input to remove the magnet must closely equal the stator coil output so this portion of the cycle is a wash, the approach to register is clearly a gain. 

If this is so, where is OU?  Sorry to not get it yet. You indicate a fifty-fifty share...

rgds
Gyula