3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS

[Naija]

We are missing the point of magnetman's invention. His work is NOT originally meant to be a normal dc bulb operation running on batteries (if this were so, there would not be the need for his circuit that took him 3 years to perfect). Okay, let us assume that his measurements are dead wrong and that the bulbs are actually drawing the required 63W; what explanation could be given to his testament that the 17W power pack powering the 63W of load has remained cold to touch after CONTINUOUS use?

Magnetman might not have all the equipment to professionally demonstrate his work and this is where those who do can come in. He has been very honest thus far, revealing all it takes to replicate his work. I think it is better to FIRST replicate his work and in doing this, we will find answers to our criticisms. In this respect, I appreciate Skywatchers effort to FIRST replicate this work. That is the sure way to go.

[Naija]

I hope everyone gets involved with this and it goes viral.  I only want to be noted as the person that used
tidbits of information from others and after adding my own thoughts I came up with this"" HYBRID"" circuit. I hope it works out for all mankind.  That's why I open sourced all info.

This is verily your work and you rightly deserve the sole credit of it. Even the well-respected Tesla started out with tidbits of information from others!

[gyulasun]

Dear Naija,

I am sorry if I seem to be naysayer, this is not my intention.  All I am saying is: we do not know
yet how much power actually goes into the paralleled 8 LED bulbs. We know correctly the input power.

A pulsed LED which is the case in this setup responds with increased brightness to peak currents
and this can be a misleading factor in estimating brightness by eye.  This property is okay and known for a LED
but the actual average or real power draw by the 8 LEDs is what should count when we claim a low input
and a higher than that output. 
I also appreciate Skywatcher's efforts and readyness for doing the measurements. Unfortunately he could not
replicate the exact setup magnetman built because he has not had the same 12V DC LED types but 120V ones,
and he has not used the switching thyristor yet, see here:
http://overunity.com/17200/3-7-volt-battery-powers-56-watts/msg504081/#msg504081  and
his measurement: http://overunity.com/17200/3-7-volt-battery-powers-56-watts/msg504293/#msg504293   
I cannot locate the same type of LEDs magnetman uses at other places than what he gave an ebay link and
the seller does not send those lamps to my country.
 
Anyway, I wish this setup magnetman has genuinely shared should fulfill everyones hopes.

Gyula

[magnetman12003]

Dear Naija,

I am sorry if I seem to be naysayer, this is not my intention.  All I am saying is: we do not know
yet how much power actually goes into the paralleled 8 LED bulbs. We know correctly the input power.

A pulsed LED which is the case in this setup responds with increased brightness to peak currents
and this can be a misleading factor in estimating brightness by eye.  This property is okay and known for a LED
but the actual average or real power draw by the 8 LEDs is what should count when we claim a low input
and a higher than that output. 
I also appreciate Skywatcher's efforts and readyness for doing the measurements. Unfortunately he could not
replicate the exact setup magnetman built because he has not had the same 12V DC LED types but 120V ones,
and he has not used the switching thyristor yet, see here:
http://overunity.com/17200/3-7-volt-battery-powers-56-watts/msg504081/#msg504081  and
his measurement: http://overunity.com/17200/3-7-volt-battery-powers-56-watts/msg504293/#msg504293   
I cannot locate the same type of LEDs magnetman uses at other places than what he gave an ebay link and
the seller does not send those lamps to my country.
 
Anyway, I wish this setup magnetman has genuinely shared should fulfill everyones hopes.

Gyula

Hi All,

I appreciate every ones input and those building this device. Always open for ideas. Will help everyone
that needs questions answered.

My best test equipment consists of two very accurate true RMS multi meters. I don't own a scope.  I don't know how far this may go.  Whoever might patent something like it later might keep me in mind and give something to a good charity. My main goal all along was to create a device that would enrich many lives without it being used with evil intent.  I tried to make it as simple as it gets and use older less expensive components.  The newer LED bulbs being the exception as well as the USB adapter. Also don't need the magnet now.

[Zephir]

best test equipment consists of two very accurate true RMS multi meters. I don't own a scope

Hi magnetman, I think you don't need any scope and I even think, that the usage of scope in overunity measurements is misleading, because its interpretation depends on power factor and many other things, which are difficult to follow. Once someone tells me, that he observed overunity with scope, then I'm getting suspicious automatically.

So if you measure the input/output current and voltage with reliable multimeter, then it's completely OK - but you should measure the DC current only, because the multimeters exhibit artifacts during measuring inharmonic signals. It requires to place large electrolytic capacitor in parallel to you multimeter for to measure the stable, sufficiently averaged signal. If you measure the AC signal, your should rectify with diode bridge first. If your overunity effect is robust, it should tolerate the voltage drop at diodes. Even the high quality RMS powermeters don't work well with overunity circuits, because they're calibrated to harmonic frequency in grid. And they also don't measure well too low voltages/currents outside the range of common grid circuits.

It's great you managed to eliminate magnets from your arrangement, as I always considered its usage a bit inconvenient and illogical with respect to your construction. If the overunity effect emerges inside the air coreless coil, then no magnet should be actually necessary.

Albert Einstein: "Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler."