Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community

[Zephir]

Tomorrow I'll move all nontechnical posts (including this last mine one which was left unanswered) into psychosociologically oriented thread named "Replicators vs. inventors" or somehow similar for the sake of continuity and free speech.

I think, there is principal conflict of interests: the replicators have respect and they want to get know-how cheaply (without exerting work), the inventors have know-how and they want to get the respect cheaply (i.e. without saving some work for replicators). It's symmetric situation and both groups get upset  once they cannot get what they want soon - so they tend to ridicule each other. This is so natural and predictable outcome, that it can be discussed in dedicated thread and not maintained in every thread of this forum. 

I even think, that the problem of borrowing information (hidden work) from inventors is not very different from problem of draining work from overunity devices and similar strategy could be used (I mean other than thick wires and high voltage pulses). The inventors are negentropic subjects which advanced time arrow of their epoch. They resemble black holes which don't release information into outside despite they attract everyone with it.

[Jimboot]

That's a shame Nelson.


The other discussion thread was locked because we were all being abused by one other member.


I'm really enjoying your circuit. Thanks you for your contribution so far.

[Zephir]

I'm really a fool thinking some persons could change

Like I or Vortex1 has already said, I'm not fond of "cargo cult" replicators, who just wire the diagrams blindly and when they don't generate nothing interesting, then they attack the inventor, who gave them this info selflessly. But from the same reason I don't start with replications until I will not get the problem at least a bit and until I have no idea, what and how I could get from it.

If I would want to see neon tube powered with some black box circuit, I can simply switch the plasma ball on my table with the same result. Look before you leap.

The other discussion thread was locked because we were all being abused by one other member

When I did come here I just experienced the conflict of Nelson Rocha with "elitist" but visibly frustrated replicators, who started to spread conviction, that the overunity is impossible because they failed with it many times. Such a defeatist mindset will not help anyone here so I asked the "elitists" to leave forum with such an attitude. I recognized Mr. Rocha as the only competent constructor here in this moment and claimed his Radiant Exciter as an important and simple enough prototype for future progress. In response to it Grumage opened a new thread about it.

[Jimboot]

Like I or Vortex1 has already said, I'm not fond of "cargo cult" replicators, who just wire the diagrams blindly and when they don't generate nothing interesting, then they attack the inventor, who gave them this info selflessly. But from the same reason I don't start with replications until I will not get the problem at least a bit and until I have no idea, what and how I could get from it.

If I would want to see neon tube powered with some black box circuit, I can simply start the plasma ball on my table with the same result.

[size=78%]You're the only one doing any attacking here Zephir by your anonymous & libellous accusations. We're just trying to work with what Nelson has so generously shared. [/size]

[Zephir]

We're just trying to work with what Nelson has so generously shared.

Whole this forum is filled with "hard work" - yet no usable results are still visible. Work is not enough by itself - the thinking is sometimes also important. Work smarter not harder. If you're not smart enough, first watch the smarter people, like I do. I'm analyzing their videos all the time.

We have at least three replications already, but they all behave in unpredictable way and they oscillate more wildly, than the Mini Radiant Exciter at original videos.. For now they all also ignored my recommendation to replicate Nelson Rocha's prototype exactly. If nothing else, then the ferrite rod passing the toroid will block high frequencies propagating into circuit and it will make it more harmonic and less unpredictable.

In addition, Mr. Rocha pointed to interesting behavior, like the recharging of capacitors and another effects, which are visible at his videos. Instead of playing with neon lamp these effects can be tested for now.