Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community

[sm0ky2]

It's not often that I rant, but since there is a place for it, there are a few
concepts I feel are worth instilling into the minds of those that be...


In the land of Electronics Engineering there is a concept called 'equivalent circuits'.
Basically this idea places similar functionality to a group of different circuits, under
the pretense that they perform identical 'duties' in any and all circuits, and by this
analogy, a simpler circuit may replace a more complex one, without err.


While in most situations this proves to be true, the very idea of simplifying a circuit or
or "redrawing" a schematic in an easier-to-read format: may be our Achilles Heel.


As it pertains to critically timed oscillators, or tuned resonant circuits, the replacement of
a single component, or portion of a circuit, (while may be well intended) could throw the
entire device out of synch.
Any difference in the time it takes an electrical signal to travel from one side of a circuit to
another, even if only a fraction of a microsecond, denotes a change in frequency.


It is by this discrete analysis that we find the circuits to be not truly "equivalent", but
merely "similar circuits". Or circuits that perform similar functions, but not identical.
This is not to undermine the EE process, or to take away from the importance of
Fourier Transforms, and simplifying our circuits- as these things have their place in
electronics, but in "FE", maybe not so much.


So what is the appropriate course of action?
Does this mean that we cannot make changes to a 'free energy' device?
Of course not.
Make your changes, perform your experiments, but keep in mind and be
very aware of what these changes 'actually do' to the circuit.


Certain things are not inherently taught to us, because in real-world situations
they don't really matter.
Two objects traveling at the speed of light, one takes a slightly longer path,
Which one will arrive first? And how does this change in timing affect the rest
of the circuit?
Does this change cause interference? Or reduce it?


In a normal circuit we don't care. Your hair dryer will still
function whether we use two 50-ohm resistors, or a single 100.
But the electricity DOES care! It could mean the signal arrives at
the switch some quantity of time earlier than in the other scenario.


Think on this, instill it into your minds, and let it ferment.
We must advance this concept before we can tackle the next issue.


Your thoughts on this are appreciated.

                                                       Sm0ky2

[nelsonrochaa]

Dear Graham

The person in question has some nearly sixty videos on youtube dating back 3 or 4 years to the present. Most are (to me) boring, bad camera work, and again, to me, show nothing of value, but that is only my opinion, to others they may be valuable.

Many have the term "Radiant" in the title, quite a few of them have "free energy" in the title or "free radiant energy" which is IMO "biasing" the viewer. "Overunity" is also used.

Many (not all) are being led to believe the so called "Mini Exciter" is but a stepping stone, master this and then move on to the real "free energy" stuff.

Lighting a neon bulb takes microwatts of power. So what is the claim for the circuit?

Charging a capacitor with one wire? No such thing, there is always another wire, it is the capacitance in the air that leads back to the circuit ground.

Developing funny waveforms on a scope? No, I think it's the undefinable, un-measurable, un-provable "radiant energy" term being bandied about again.

I only ask that claimants be held to the same standards in the electronic arena as if they were making claims for a new engine design and the truth of the situation will be evident i.e. a solid measurement protocol should be used but is nowhere evident.

IMO it couldn't hurt to use those standards as the template for vetting truth over fiction.

Kind Regards
Vortex1

P.S. IMO you need not apologize, you caused no harm. Perhaps when claimants (per the video titles) are misleading, they should feel some distress, after all, this is why most humans have a conscience.

"The person in question has some nearly sixty videos on youtube dating back 3 or 4 years to the present. Most are (to me) boring, bad camera work, and again, to me, show nothing of value, but that is only my opinion, to others they may be valuable."

I understand that my vídeos could be boring to most people,and is perfectly normal that happens because i dont dedicate myself to produce vídeos with the objective to become a youtuber mine money producer ; i already explain that i use youtube and gdrive to store almost of my own tests in vídeo shots .
Listen well ..... MY OWN TESTS .  And that is the reason to i have not 6 vídeos but 63 since i begin store them in youtube .

"Many have the term "Radiant" in the title, quite a few of them have "free energy" in the title or "free radiant energy" which is IMO "biasing" the viewer. "Overunity" is also used."

Do you think that terms implicity is to call people ? Hope that could change in near future because you could see how high is the views in my vídeos. Are you saying that persons like me or by example TK, that use the term electric OU or the term Radiant are try only biasing their vídeos ? I really dont agree but it is your opinion and i respect that .


"Many (not all) are being led to believe the so called "Mini Exciter" is but a stepping stone, master this and then move on to the real "free energy" stuff."

Did i ask someone to open a thread with mini radiant exciter ? I think not i only accept Grumage prupose to publish , and for sure  he will remember the first thing that i say to him in PM was going to happen, and for sure Grumage will start smile when read this .

"Lighting a neon bulb takes microwatts of power. So what is the claim for the circuit?
Charging a capacitor with one wire? No such thing, there is always another wire, it is the capacitance in the air that leads back to the circuit ground.
Developing funny waveforms on a scope? No, I think it's the undefinable, un-measurable, un-provable radiant energy" term being bandied about again."

I understand that you knowledge of your years of experience, could be the reason to that circuit not motivate  you , is perfectly plausible so you should ignore. Nothing could stop you ignore that, so what is bothering you?

"I only ask that claimants be held to the same standards in the electronic arena as if they were making claims for a new engine design and the truth of the situation will be evident i.e. a solid measurement protocol should be used but is nowhere evident.
IMO it couldn't hurt to use those standards as the template for vetting truth over fiction."

I already told you that i'm not claim nothing at all, and i never asked for your approval or someone else's to validate any of my circuits , otherwise it will make all the sense do the things in that way . But this is not the reality, is it?
Maybe just some understanding problem by your side about this subject.



Kind Regards
Nelson Rocha

[Grumage]

Did i ask someone to open a thread with mini radiant exciter ? I think not i only accept Grumage prupose to publish , and for sure  he will remember the first thing that i say to him in PM was going to happen, and for sure Grumage will start smile when read this . :

Kind Regards
Nelson Rocha

Dear Nelson.

I'm smiling, yes indeed, I had to read your PM again, but your prophecy was absolutely correct. 

I hope there are no hard feelings between us? I just need to finish off the Spring house painting so I can put that circuit back together and try out some other ideas.

Kind regards, Graham.

[nelsonrochaa]

Dear Nelson.

I'm smiling, yes indeed, I had to read your PM again, but your prophecy was absolutely correct. 

I hope there are no hard feelings between us? I just need to finish off the Spring house painting so I can put that circuit back together and try out some other ideas.

Kind regards, Graham.

Hi dear Grumage,
i know that you know too that  "prophecy" will happen is mankind nature
And of course there no hard feelings , i know perfectly  separate the wheat from the darnel.
Hope you enjoy your tests with circuit , with not so much "noise" like happen until now because until know It looks like more a mix "salad" of ideas and complains. What should be a simple experiment test, seems become a big confusion and a contest of who Which lights a neon better
or "mine is better" than yours ....

Cheers

Nelson Rocha

[Dog-One]

I suppose the same is not true with everyone, but I have watched your videos Nelson
and paid attention to the time sequence of your discoveries.  Without a doubt you have
shared with me the goose that lays the golden eggs.  The doors of prophecy are opening.
Curious if you might need an assistant.