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Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology

Started by antimony, April 25, 2017, 09:09:27 AM

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Slider2732

Nick - Now you've started with the clip leads there's no going back  8)
They make a very noticeable difference to any set up that is far stronger than regular wire. Is it the gauge, the metal on the ends ?

Gyula - oh it's the simple thing of the Pierce based oscillator output being switched on the negative rail, when we want the improvised signal generator to switch the positive. The 13.4MHz comes out of the circuit, goes into the MOSFET and its Source is to the negative.
But surely for a sig gen we would want the positive signal being switched on and off at that rate. Or, I should say, make the positive signal be what is created and switched by a MOSFET.
I can't find those P channels....but got side-tracked with family matters yesterday.

Rusty - The scope output did change markedly in that waver vid with the 22uH choke, far more than i'm used to seeing. Normally the wave edges just get rounded off ! 

NickZ

   Slider and All:   
   What I'm seeing is that the running frequency of these device tests, will and does vary by quite a bit, when changing loads or moving the hand or body closer or further away from the coil circuit. Or even if you just breath on this thing.   So, I doubt that a steady signal frequency is what's needed to keep up with the changing running frequencies.
If you just plan on tuning the thing to that one frequency 13.4MHz, you may find that you are stuck to just what that single frequency can do. So, a controllable frequency, like when using a signal generator, may be the better way to go, for these types of tests.  So, maybe the thing is to build a circuit that can be controlled, to some degree, if possible, like a SG can do.
Yet, has some kick to it, and some 20v plus out of it, as well.    There are no home made oscillators circuits that I know of, that will work well at 13.4MHz. And can be controlled, also.
Perhaps Gyula can have some advice, there.
   Slider, yes, the clip lead's metal crock ends are what is doing the trick. As compare to touching the plug with your finger, or just a plain wire. So, that makes me think, (or not to think), if the clip lead is acting as a ground, (which I doubt). Since an actual earth ground just kills it.  Or,  more as antenna,  or both.   
   "Which is it"...

   EDIT:  Here's my first attempt at this: Please check my YT video channel, under Nick Zec    Or click here: https://youtu.be/G-qzbiyAVNw
   

AlienGrey

look up AFC circuits and see if you can add Automatic frequency feed back to stabilize it by tracking the drift.
My bits haven't arrived yet

AG

Slider2732

AFC circuits are a good idea...there's a wealth of knowledge in RF circuitry as yet not looked at for what it could reveal. In my opinion, answers and furtherment.

Is there a point to making something that includes the Jeanna's Light or perhaps Lasersaber's HF devices ? The current and voltages being far more adjustable than Slayer or Kacher circuits.
We then tune and form them into Exciters with Dr. Stiffler's approaches and the ferrite rods, for finer frequency control and resonance.
There has to be a JT approach in this somewhere rather than $600 of pro equipment...for study purposes that anyone could build.

gyulasun

Hi Nick,

Well, some notices if I may:

Do not bother on the unstable sine wave seen on the scope in this case, it can be from the lack of the ground connection to the SG and there may be an interference between the mains frequency (that the coil picks up in the room) and the generator output frequency. If you wish, switch off the SG and set the scope to a more sensitive amplitude range and also the timebase to say 10 or 20 ms/DIV. If nothing is seen, touch the probe tip by your finger to see whether any picked up mains amplitude with the mains frequency appears. Perhaps the mains frequency leaks out from the SG via the one wire you drive the coil, not very likely but could be.

If you can see the SG output on the scope (when you check it directly across the SG's BNC output) as a stabil and normal sine wave, no any trembling etc, than that is ok, move on this, do not care. I understand it can be disturbing to see such waveform.

On the (erraticly) changing self resonant frequency of your coil:  This is also normal, unfortunately. The winding first of all needs a stable and rigid bobbin, otherwise you push the cloth on the table etc and it changes. The movement of the yellow clip lead also influences it and whenever you remove any metal 'thing' from the coil end, you should retune the frequency on the SG to find the new resonant frequency. This means that when you check the floating end of the coil with another AV plug, you need to tune the coil again to resonance. Remember how sensitive a Tesla secondary coil is for even a small 'top load' which can be a piece of wire etc, it detunes the coil.

Also, the moment you connect the hot output of the SG to the end of the coil via a single wire, the SRF changes, it also changes when you drive it via your 5 turn primary coil from the Kacher circuit but the oscillator kinda follows the change which may be less with inductive coupling though but the oscillator does not care where it oscillates if it can oscillate.

So far you have nicely found the self resonant frequency (SRF) of your multiturn single layer coil when one of its ends is driven from the SG and its other end is floating and loaded with an AV plug and with a piece of wire via the AV plug.  Please, this is not really what the Doc's setups are about and he showed in the previous 3 or 4 videos...  sorry to notice this, no offense intended.

The use of AV plug(s) in itself may never give ou probably because they cannot pick up all the RF energy the source provides or emits from itself.

And see the Doc's videos what he uses the two diodes for, for instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTSMNB4h9U8 (do not pay much attention to the voltage or power numbers yet). It is worth rewatching his last 5 videos to understand the setup better.  In the link I refere to he speeks about the diodes role in the first half minute or so.

So I think the replication should then start with obtaining a LED board he shows, his board is made by CREE if I got it correctly and then trying to assemble his setup. 

You can choose to build variable RF oscillators and amplifiers if needed but it involves further resources and knowledge, unfortunately. I apologize again, no offense is meant with this.
See these links for instance what is involved for a good oscillator:
http://www.gqrp.com/ColpittsVFO.pdf or please see Figure 2 in page 3 of this PDF file: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Technology/tis/info/pdf/8912018.pdf  and in Part 2 you can see a power amplifier in Figure 5 with a cheap IRF510 MOSFET to linearly amplify a 14 MHz speech modulated RF signal: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Technology/tis/info/pdf/9001028.pdf
Amateur radio fans build such things and lots of other oscillator circuits are described and can be found on the web.

I believe that this should be the route for you only if a CREE LED board (or maybe other make) does not work in the 1-2 MHz range (your SG operates at) like it does in the Doc's setup in the 13.45 or 13.5 MHz frequencies, this is my take on this.

I probably missed it if the Doc specifically referred to this frequency as the only one where the LEDs bright up like he shows in his setups.  Anyone have heard this in one of his earlier videos? please tell.

Gyula