THE RANT ROOM

[lancaIV]

Beside from the R&D OU-device :how to implement this into the housegrid-,network ?
DC,or AC,or pulsed DC ?
Doing an appliances list we see 24 hours stand-by systems ( permanent working : fridge/freezer ),partial used devices(mixer), with high numeric power demand ( resistive heating : 1500 W)
and very low power demand : LEDs !
During night the consume ( summer-time) decreasing to ≤ 100 Wh,during day-time up to  3000 Wp power and 2000Wh work demand !

The "generator" does not "think" and gives us not the "right place-right time-right solution",this is something that each of us for his own case ," single-couple-family" has to organize for him-self !
Variable loads demands over the day needs variable power devices !
High loads =total Wp in use parallel means higher investment,alternatively : use spread =serial by timer !


Overunity has ever the device nominal power limit :
from a nominal 1 KW net OU system/ generator 1 KW per hour is the maximum brut output,independent from the concept C.O.P. !
A 1 KW OU-system/generator  can never deliver the sufficient energy for a 1 KW in VA electric  motor !
(Attention by rotoverter with C.O.P≥ 1 propagation : how the developper overbridge this barrier !?With capacitor and stepping rpm up variable speed devices ? )

Without inrush voltage/current limiter for a 1 KW motor we need a 6 KWp OU-device,
without serial appliances use we are fast in the 10 KWp power demand range !

R&D is more than only OU-device research :

material production/exploration and market prices development
production process technology

material recycling possibility

International we are now in great solar/wind parcs projects in the 2 Euro-cents/KWh range(without storage)
to reach this without over-head costs  is by 1 KWp net output generator possible,
actually price calcuation +- 500 Euros , the start price target : 5 Euro-cents/KWh variable load demand satisfaction   !

Sufficient for :
Autonomous House,GB : 3 KWh per day = 1096 KWh per year + heat(wood)

www.oeko-energie.de : "intelligent" summer house-hold  consume 3 KWh = 1096 KWh per year + heat(solarthermic)

www.mtbest.net : 0,8 kWh electric consume per day = 292 KWh + heat (solarthermic)

When an one KW generator in 24 hours can deliver 24 KWh electric power this does not mean that we have to consume the possible max !

Being and staying eco-smart 




www.batteryinnovation.org / www.windpowerengineering.org
Consortium of Battery Innovation : lead batteries with 4000 - 5000 charge cycles (DoD% ?)

Staying tuned in the global eugenical championship for excellence and up to : PERFECTION ( and low cost  )

[ramset]

Lanca   We swim in energy....surrounded by a world in perpetual motion
1kw>+ per square meter power coming from the sun.....
On planet Earth, Energy is meant to be like oxygen...water...sunshine ..and Gravity .. all Free  ...no fee no cost ..just use it.Wesley had told me  the power under our feet is not possible to measure or put a limit...beyond our imagining ...
We need to access this and keep this beautiful planet for the next generation and beyond...fix this while we still have a chance ...
Here a contribution.. just as an example...from member Jimboot
a Movie by Robert Murray Smith ...harvests electricity from Water [plain water]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGQHVc9z8yQ

Chet K...PS, patent link supplied By Jimboot...https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/63/ae/d6/8779071971a6f6/US4153757.pdf

[lancaIV]

Hello Chet,there is no voltage given to this bimetallic thermoelectric element ,only microamperes( not milli -!) output !
Let us assume 12 V x 0,0005 A ( for 50 microamperes,    0,05 A= 50 milliamperes) :

for 1000 Watt in VA you need : 1000 VA /(12 V x 0,0005 A ) = 166,666 : one hundred sixty-six thousands ......
                                                              thermo-elements
10 cents ( underestimated calculation !) for each x 166,666 = 16,666 USD for 1 KW output !               

+ construction time : 166,666 x 1/2 minute(cutting,hammering,montage) "free-time"                             

                                   = only 1388 hours ~ 173 work-days a 8 hours

                                         Free and cheap energy ?
Has Jimboot a special commission contract with the braze and aluminium industry ?


I expect that such " minerals in water" -batteries are cheaper to produce and in power density ratio higher than  these above thermo-elements :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931111&CC=DE&NR=4222678A1&KC=A1

[NickZ]

   Ramset:   I don't know if you are aware of it, but, Geofusion built up several of those water/fuel projects for his friends cars. That's what he was doing when he couldn't get his OU up to speed. However, there is nothing new or exciting about that, it still needs a power source, to produce a tiny bit of hydrogen gas. Will it run a car? NO. Unless you fill the fuel tank up with gasoline, also. And, it's still not OU, and not self running... Is it more efficient? Maybe.

[ramset]

Nick...the Goal is really not HHO [maybe small part we shall see]I do love that Geo can turn a wrench...[familiar with ICE and similar]
Goal is water as fuel ...if we could run an engine on water[mostly]...
while it runs a generator ??
its all about the goals...I am told papps first patent needs looking at again.
Hot /cold and water [sealed and running ?
anyhoo ...here a video with perhaps some good thoughts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD8m5UrDWUY
trying to get a good translation ...just received this yesterday.. I have a few very good builders on board for helping [once we get the "plan"organized and goals...
would Luv to get our friend from OZ back into the mix [he's an "Ozsolarpower"  guy nownot using Tinman anymore...
or maybe some of these other projects here ...
so to be clear...I am certain Geo would definitely be interested in running on Water  maybe even Flash steam...or ??we shall see.

This has been floating around way to long...and we have plenty of fellows with good skills to experiment.[now maybe Geo too ??will try to open thread tomorrow.gotta touch base with Stephan .
Chet