THE RANT ROOM

[AlienGrey]

I just found this thread so am kind of slow to respond.

First I want to thank Stefan very much for dealing with Zephir.  He truly was a serious disruption to this forum.

@Scratchrobot, I understand what you are saying about the misleading titles on many of the threads here.  It also irritates me that anyone would make claims that are not true.  However I think in a lot of cases the person starting those threads actually thought they had some kind of free energy or OU.  They were just too inexperienced to know how to really test and verify what they had.  And that is one of the purposes of this forum: to test and verify claims of OU.

Another thing to consider is the idea of truth in advertising.  What I am talking about here is that not everyone sees things the same.  Here in the U.S.  a pizza company had as their slogan "Better ingredients, better pizza, Papa John's.  They were sued by another company for claiming they had better ingredients. The judge ruled they could continue to use that slogan because he said that whether the ingredients were better was up to the consumer to decide.  The judge ruled that claims can be made in advertising as long as they are not blatantly wrong.  So if someone claims to have OU it is up to us to use our own knowledge and experience to prove or disprove their claim.

You have been here long enough to know if the claims turn out to be false the poster usually gets roasted and leave on their own.  Or in some cases like Zephir get the boot from the admin.

There are a couple of posters on this forum I would have gotten rid of long ago because their ideas are clearly wrong, but in the interest of letting everyone have their say I suppose they don't really do any harm because I think most of us just ignore anything they post.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Mr Carrol I  cant say I agree fully but know the feeling only too well  AG

[ramset]

SeaMonkey
well
I'm inclined to agree with AG on this [the reason], not saying its a good path...that is.. going forward with a replication without his "overview" ,  we know how troublesome that can be and it is never conclusive without the inventors help....unless its successful .

and just for clarity the effect which Matt was showing as important
was not acknowledged in the reply to him.... discussions suggested this effect was "explained"
as the result of equipment irregularities ... HOWEVER it could well be a very ,very important point or moment in the running device where energy can be harvested OR ??.

also to note the device as presented is the most Basic and rudimentary version ,but years of hard work went into this .
it has evolved greatly since then.

So what now ??
we shall see? [Luc will make some tests of his own now with the suggestions made to date.
he was holding off out of respect to the builder .
he does have all the bits and pieces ,it was a concern that Matt had mentioned trouble with Parts sometimes ... that is to say certain parts not performing as they should ??
and having to swap them out until it worked like it should ?
this was one reason I was very grateful that Matt was going to take the time to test run the unit
prior to sending it to the Lab.


To Note

I absolutely believe these fellows [Matt, Dave and Carroll] and the things they say they have seen.
and I do like Matt, he is one very ,very hard working man trying to run a business and help others too.

a very intense fellow with little time on his hands.

respectfully
Chet

[tinman]

SeaMonkey
well
I'm inclined to agree with AG on this [the reason], not saying its a good path...that is.. going forward with a replication without his "overview" ,  we know how troublesome that can be and it is never conclusive without the inventors help....unless its successful .

and just for clarity the effect which Matt was showing as important
was not acknowledged in the reply to him.... discussions suggested this effect was "explained"
as the result of equipment irregularities ... HOWEVER it could well be a very ,very important point or moment in the running device where energy can be harvested OR ??.

also to note the device as presented is the most Basic and rudimentary version ,but years of hard work went into this .
it has evolved greatly since then.

So what now ??
we shall see? [Luc will make some tests of his own now with the suggestions made to date.
he was holding off out of respect to the builder .
he does have all the bits and pieces ,it was a concern that Matt had mentioned trouble with Parts sometimes ... that is to say certain parts not performing as they should ??
and having to swap them out until it worked like it should ?
this was one reason I was very grateful that Matt was going to take the time to test run the unit
prior to sending it to the Lab.


To Note

I absolutely believe these fellows [Matt, Dave and Carroll] and the things they say they have seen.
and I do like Matt, he is one very ,very hard working man trying to run a business and help others too.

a very intense fellow with little time on his hands.

respectfully
Chet

It always seems to be the case-as time go's  by,and exact replications fail to yeild the results claimed by the inventer,more parts are needed--or you you have done something wrong.

I remember when i did the replication,all that was needed was 3 batteries and a 12v DC motor.

After spending $240.00 on 3 new batteries,and carrying out the experiment as told,negative results were had.

Then i had to swap out the motor for an inverter.
After another $130.00,and now being the proud owner of a new invertet,we ran the next set of tests.
Once again,negative results.

Now-now we need to have specially  wound motors,which have turned out to be great heaters

[AlienGrey]

It always seems to be the case-as time go's  by,and exact replications fail to yeild the results claimed by the inventer,more parts are needed--or you you have done something wrong.

I remember when i did the replication,all that was needed was 3 batteries and a 12v DC motor.

After spending $240.00 on 3 new batteries,and carrying out the experiment as told,negative results were had.

Then i had to swap out the motor for an inverter.
After another $130.00,and now being the proud owner of a new invertet,we ran the next set of tests.
Once again,negative results.

Now-now we need to have specially  wound motors,which have turned out to be great heaters

Tin man this reminds me of a device I made a transformer in fact a ferrite torrid in fact to be used in a
TK Dally replication extremely modified wingdings and torrid alloy with more out than in at a certain frequency (1.67 Mhz)
lighting an incandescent 40w at half power from just a SGen and collection grenade coil you could say it was brilliant with retraces to gains dividing back down to 8hz multipal up as far as  the mhz rang, it was so good i lashed out and bought 2 more lots of components and drivers for more output with a collection transformer.
But do you think I could get the other copies to work  could I heck.

Still I have learnt a good bit since then from others. I must admit none of us know it all, but we can learn from each other. however I remember one particular video an inverter was showing video after video I happen to notice a pile of capacitors and diodes tucked away where under normal glancing would neglect next time i saw the video that section had been removed.

Allen

[tinman]

Tin man this reminds me of a device I made a transformer in fact a ferrite torrid in fact to be used in a
TK Dally replication extremely modified wingdings and torrid alloy with more in than out at a certain frequency
lighting an incandescent 40w at half power from just a SGen and collection grenade coil you could say it was brilliant with referaces to gains dividing back down to 8hz multipal up as far as  the mhz rang, it was so good i lashed out and bought 2 more lots of components and drivers for more output with a collection transformer.
But do you think I could get the other copies to work  could I heck.

Still I have learnt a good bit since then from others. I must admit none of us know it all, but we can learn from each other.

Allen

More in than out at a certain frequency?