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THE RANT ROOM

Started by ramset, April 25, 2017, 04:30:05 AM

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rakarskiy

#845
August 07, 2023, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: kolbacict on August 07, 2023, 01:50:57 PM
https://www.google.com/url?esrc=s&q=&rct=j&sa=U&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D1ZAMosm2M54&ved=2ahUKEwiTptObi8uAAxUJGRAIHftYDpYQuAJ6BAgBEAI&usg=AOvVaw3UTAPeJpn9Bqz9QNTwEqSn
What about Leedskalnin's "magnet keeper"?

It's not accumulation, it's closure. When a closed loop is broken, the flow is dissipated.
Guardian and Accumulator are kind of synonymous, but the point is the difference in action.

stivep

#846
August 07, 2023, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: rakarskiy on August 07, 2023, 12:00:45 PM
Magnetic field cannot be accumulated, only induced, excited.-if we use word "accumulated"  in broad sense:
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Quote from: kolbacict on August 07, 2023, 01:50:57 PM
https://www.google.com/url?esrc=s&q=&rct=j&sa=U&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D1ZAMosm2M54&ved=2ahUKEwiTptObi8uAAxUJGRAIHftYDpYQuAJ6BAgBEAI&usg=AOvVaw3UTAPeJpn9Bqz9QNTwEqSn
What about Leedskalnin's "magnet keeper"?
it is just a broad use  of word "accumulation."
totally inadequate  but expressively OK
Wesley

bistander

#847
August 07, 2023, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: rakarskiy on August 07, 2023, 01:40:20 PM
I'd like to see those engineering calculations of a synchronous generator when the Lorentz force calculates the EMF at idle.   ;) :D

I'd use Faraday's Law to calculate generated voltage and Lorentz to calculate torque.
bi

rakarskiy

#848
August 07, 2023, 03:36:55 PM
Quote from: bistander on August 07, 2023, 03:15:29 PM
I'd use Faraday's Law to calculate generated voltage and Lorentz to calculate torque.
bi
Well, what's wrong? EMF occurs in the phase conductor, even if it is not connected to a circuit. It's a good example of the whole concept going down the toilet.
If a concept has exceptions, it is false.

bistander

#849
August 07, 2023, 03:44:17 PM
Quote from: rakarskiy on August 07, 2023, 03:36:55 PM
Well, what's wrong? EMF occurs in the phase conductor, even if it is not connected to a circuit. It's a good example of the whole concept going down the toilet.

Nothing is wrong. The generated voltage can certainly be calculated at no load, idle, or open circuit.

You have a history with me about using the incorrect equations. Remember Ampere's Force Law.
bi
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