A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.

[kEhYo77]

Hi Ageofmagnetizm.

I also pointed out your measuring technique is not good under one of your videos...

Please try to make one short demonstration.
1. Connect all your generator coils in series, spin it up to steady RPM and then short generator coils with a dead short connecting both output leads together and watch the RPM if it drops.
2. Connect all your generator coils in series, spin it up to steady RPM and connect[/size] your heater resistor to output generator coils passing through multimetr in series to measure current.
3. Disconnect your meter from output circuit, connect output to heater resistor directly and then, connect your meter in parallel, across output terminals to measure Voltage under load.


We are really trying to help here.
I already see similarities to Thane Heinz's acceleration under load coils so IMHO this setup has got potential.


kEhYo

[ageofmagnetizm]

kEhyo77,


I have printed yout methods an glued it into one very thick book from Boing,
completly dedicated to various testing of permanent magnet generators.


Currently I'm working on next-stage prototype and I would not miss your suggestions
when it will come to testing again. Thouse two alredy published prototypes
have been passed up where they are being tested like hell
and I have no time to fly overther for additional testing.


Thaks for your optimizm and I have to notice that there previous report if you have missed it.
There many other testing and even more explanations of concetions and design:



https://sites.google.com/site/ageofmagnetizm/home/magnetomechanics/mpg-mme

RF PMG-MMEIR 4E6M.

Construction and methods of utilization and results of testing of
the  Permanent Magnet Generator of Mechano Magnetic Electro Inducting Rings .
Gaining of excellent ~100% efficiency of conversion of energy.

[gyulasun]

hi ageofmagnetizm,

It is good you are not mad at me, anger is always a bad adviser. 

Regarding your Bosch-made drill,  I already had a look at its specs at the Bosch home site and only then asked you about it
(i.e. why you repeated mentioning its specs again). So let me comment only this quote from you:
"... I would not believe that you believe that that drive can do 100 watts when it is desighed for light jobs."

No I do not believe this, of course.  And I think you are aware of batteries temporary performance capability: for short time
durations they are capable of providing quite high output power because of their Amper-hour capacity theoretically
includes this possibility. But in case of such drill motors you have, 100 W power would involve a heavy 9 Amper current draw,
not likely allowed to flow in the motor coils by the clever internal control circuits, albeit the battery might be capable of
delivering such high current peaks for some short duration of time.

I would also comment this (also technical) quote from you:"also I hope that yo dont believe that coils producing 100 watts of heat because that such transver can burn fine wire instantly." 

I agree and no I do not believe that the coils produce 100 Watts of heat.  Again, no offense intended but why I do not
believe it is simply because during the video load tests you showed, only a few microAmper of current was allowed to flow out from the generator coils due to the voltmeter high internal resistance you hooked up in series with the immersion heater.

Please consider this: you wrote the followings when mentioning about ampers, I quote "if I assume just half amper
that would be too little",  so if you mean the output current would be higher than that, that is okay with me but then,
even with half amper output current only, the 448 Ohm internal coil resistance would produce 0.5²*448= 112 Watt heat, this would burn the windings within a very short time as you also mentioned this.

Unfortunately, with internal generator coil resistance as high as 448 Ohms, excessive heat inherently developes at relatively low output current levels as you can see from my calculation (hopefully you agree with its correctness).And the higher the output load current is, the higher heat dissipates in the windings.

Would you elaborate on this,  how you designed wire diameter and output current hence output power capability with the AF PMG-MMEIR 4E8M generator you showed the heater load test in the video?

Thanks,
Gyula

[ageofmagnetizm]

Well, wire design was not made for manufacturing prototypes requiting high percission,
but for prof of concept models which had to validate expected parameters and features,
also allowing to collect sets of data which will help with designs of industrial models.
At the beginning I coud not knew what will comes in the end as it is usual for true experiments.


So I had only data from previous experimental testings:



CUC & MAGNET AND ZMF.
Construction of Coiled U-Core with magnet efficiently generating electric
currents by magneto-electric induction which producing
Zero Magneto-motive Feedback.


https://sites.google.com/site/ageofmagnetizm/home/magnetomechanics/cuc-magnet-and-zmf


and


A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
[/font][/size]Construction of Asymmetrically Coiled C- and G- Cores and X- and Y-shaped
multy-polar Magnets and methods of production of magneto-electric induction
and Positive Magneto-motive Feedback and efficient generation of electricity.[/font][/size]

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https://sites.google.com/site/ageofmagnetizm/home/magnetomechanics/a3c-x-magnet


Back then it was clear that I need finest wire because that currents were not expecting to be
higher than one ampere and I was hesitating between 1/3 and 1/6 mm,
so I decided to risk with finer more efficent one, and thought ... if necessary...
then I'll by thicker one and rewind cores.


After I published first RF PMG-MMEIR 4E6M




https://sites.google.com/site/ageofmagnetizm/home/magnetomechanics/mpg-mme

then I had about 660 ohms spul over, so I've decided to carry on same 1/3 mm, it went to be
sufficiently thin ... because that desing always require to choose wire as thin as possible for sake of efficiency.


So it was qulified luck... I'd say.

[ageofmagnetizm]

Look, Gyula, as I observe my stopwach, I realize that soon, I might discontinue my
public relations and that might last, hope that not for long but befor that
I have to produce sort of short-cut here on this discussion.


The reason why I'm so cool currying on details is because that only three month ago
I was just the same sceptical and paranoic about checking of results as yuo people are.
Though my superior virtures allowed me to come out of hell circles just wasting just one week.
When I had tested     RF PMG-MMEIR 4E6M   [size=78%]      [/size]
https://sites.google.com/site/ageofmagnetizm/home/magnetomechanics/mpg-mme


There was not much watts to admire but frustrating was that it was 19 watts from 16 watts drive,
and I was cheking and talking and washing pegs
and punching keybords, but that result was just one from series of similar results where was clear that:!!!


With increase of number of magnets and numbers of loops in coils - the output increases while input is the same.
The following course of Least Action was so obvious: why talking if I can just to SEE the continuation of increase.
And in one more week I had 8 magnets rotor and C -Core with 111 oms coil on it.... and I have got the answer:


Previous prototype had round 100 ohms on stator and giving up round 50 volts
and here I hade stator with similar 100 ohms giving up 75 volts.............
What next? More same CCC simply multiplying the output while rotor need no more power for same 1400 RPM
And with four CCCs there 270 volts,


Now gues what will happen with 8 CCCs.... there round rotor is plenty of space for them.....?


But I've got not much 1/3 wire left... and no needs to produces even more proves,
Its wise to move forvard instead of stubbing on doubt.


That what I call Path of Least Resistance
where results are depending only on my actions without confusing complications usual in teamworks.


Hope I'll be here for a while, and hope for many other nice developments here and round this small planet.