Where the OVERUNITY using INDUCTION COILS comes from (eg Joule Thief)

[tinman]

Hey Brad

I had some of these conversations back nearly 10 yrs ago at another site that was mostly made to study the Whipmag motor. At least that is mostly what was discussed. I see it more fluid and more like air as the field is compressible, most liquids are not. And Air is more considered a fluid than a liquid. I see it like bubbles that only really interact with other bubbles. Some bubbles attract and others repel.

An interesting discussion we had was the possibility of the spinning stator magnets sort of communicating with each other through the bubbles of the rotor magnets. There were 2 diametric mags on bearings that were in sync with the spinning rotor and one stator of the same flicked in reverse after the rotor was spun up and it would actually lock in sync, in reverse with the rotor. It was just a hunch as we were trying all our best to figure the thing out and get one working. But I can imaging that 3 stators possibly being slightly altered in their synced rotor motion by way of the chain of magnets around the rotor. I really enjoyed those days.


Mags

Hi Mag's

I dont know much about the Whipmag motor-never followed it,and so,i have very little input i could give on it.

I would like to stick to the discussion about moving a magnet passed a coil faster,in order to gain more current,as i have found a couple of hole's in both verpies and eventually MarkE's conclusion.
There is also obviously a flaw in the test carried out,where a magnet was withdrawn from a super conductive ring at different speed's,and yet made no difference to the current flowing within that SC ring-that makes no sense at all,as the time constant would make no difference to the outcome,other than a quicker withdraw speed should result in a higher current flow within that SC ring.\

We are also discussing it here,and i am hoping verpies will join us there-along with others well versed in the subject at hand.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3485.msg63100;topicseen#msg63100

I think MarkE should have stuck to his gun's,but i feel that he got confused when he tried to add in the shorter time value,as that makes no difference to the outcome regarding the withdrawing of a PM from a SC ring.


Brad

[tinman]

 author=verpies link=topic=17297.msg507674#msg507674 date=1498491131]

Please read these links and reply to me if you still want to continue the debate about this subject in this thread.

I am replying,and wish to continue the debate.

My answer is still "no". The induced current depends on ΔΦ (a change of flux penetrating a coil) not on the speed of that change (or "rate of change") as denoted by dΦ/dt.

I believe the above is incorrect.


Brad

[jbignes5]

Going back to the initial subject of this post:


https://sites.google.com/site/teslanichelson/


https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21ACMuj1L6gcNOvio&cid=E5A6FA1D7F4103D6&id=E5A6FA1D7F4103D6%21182&parId=E5A6FA1D7F4103D6%21115&o=OneUp


Please read it all and delve into areas that you might not be familiar with. Then come back and try to discuss this.

[TinselKoala]

Where do ghosts come from? Where do pink flying unicorns come from?

My point is this: It seems rather silly to be asking "Where the OVERUNITY using INDUCTION COILS comes from (eg Joule Thief)" when there is no solid evidence for any OVERUNITY using induction coils in the first place, especially not from Joule Thiefs.

[antijon]

@TK I have evidence, just not solid.