Ion power group.

[blueplanet]

As a simplest ready available solution, to use thoriated rods
like there
http://www.twi-global.com/technical-knowledge/faqs/health-and-safety-faqs/faq-the-use-of-thoriated-tungsten-electrodes/

I have tried this many years ago, but with NO success.

[thx1138]

A word of caution: the pointed spikes in the Plauson build are, essentially, Franklin lightning rods. The reason the Franklin lightning rod works is that the point ionizes the air around the point which provides a better path to ground than normal air. So you will be attracting lightning if it is overhead. That's probably why the Plauson work never went anywhere.

The Plauson method and Tesla's method work very differently. The Tesla device collects the charge of charged particles from cosmic rays penetrating the atmosphere. The insulation on the polished, elevated plate serves 2 purposes. The first is that it covers any points that ionize the air and attract lightning. The second is that it is a dielectric material and serves to separate the charges and protect the the charge collected by the plate from neutralizing with opposite charges in the air around it. So the insulation should have as high a dielectric constant as possible. All connections and conductors between the elevated plate and your device need to be insulated for the same reason. The same goes for all connections and conductors between your device and your ground rod/plate connection. I found that insulating the top 3 feet of the ground rod or wire going to the plate in the soil also helps because the charged particles will also penetrate the ground to that depth.

The reason Tesla says in his patent to use a "highly polished or amalgamated plate" is so the dielectric insulation will make the best contact possible and therefore attain the best charge transfer.

In metallurgy, amalgamated means mixed with mercury. Mercury has some interesting properties in regard to Tesla's work. Vacuum tubes were developed at one time to use a pool of mercury to conduct high voltage, high current electricity in only one direction - a vacuum diode, if you will - that could handle 30kW of DC power. Tesla also used mercury in many of his circuit controllers for the same reason. Search "mercury arc rectifiers" for more info.[/font]

If I remember correctly, John Bedini said to use thoriated tungsten welding rods for the cores of the coils in the SSG.

There were at one time vacuum tubes produced that used a radioactive material. I think it was RCA who produced them for use in high power radio transmitters. There might still be a few around but they would cost an arm and a leg I imagine.

Page 13 of the following PDF document shows, essentially, a Tesla radiant energy collector using strontium rather than cosmic rays.
http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~blanchar/res/BlanchardKorea.pdf[/url]

[/font]You can buy thorium on eBay I think. And the following site has radioactive materials and handling equipment: http://www.unitednuclear.com/

More info in the attachment.

[antimony]

Of course not.
But a neon is a better idea instead of spark gap as the Minnie generator is your first attempt. The sub 100V discharge is a good indicator. Just remember to use  low leakage caps, no electrolytics, the lower the farads the better, so long as you can see the glow discharge during the day!

I am using a microwave oven cap right now, one that i have opened up and taken out of the case and removed the resistor, and one thats untouched.
The one thats opened i have put it two zip lock bags, with oil in them, and then taped up with electrical tape to insulate it, but it is still leaking very much.

What is the best way to insulate a leaking diy capacitor?
I was thinking that i was going to put the 1uF/2500v cap and put it in a container and pour in some candle wax and let it cool.

Should i use maybe AC caps instead, like WIMA´s or something like that? I haven´t had the time lately to try anything new, but this i should try to see if

(Ion)Wind Converter
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880218&CC=DE&NR=3627532A1&KC=A1#


And Cherryman, reply 30 related: Otto Traun/Plauson worked also in optimizing the Tesla electric motor performance .
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=39&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220710&CC=GB&NR=157262A&KC=A#

some others used this reference:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=7&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20101004&CC=PT&NR=104492A&KC=A#
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=8&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20101004&CC=PT&NR=104491A&KC=A#

technical result: a(n) 18000 RPM motor (so there would be the need for a gear for conventional use )

Cool, i will check these out right away. Thanks.

I have tried this many years ago, but with NO success.

Did you report on this? It sounds like something that i would be willing to try, becouse there are so much talk about that radioactive materials have been used by Moray, Hubbard among others.

The Plauson method and Tesla's method work very differently. The Tesla device collects the charge of charged particles from cosmic rays penetrating the atmosphere. The insulation on the polished, elevated plate serves 2 purposes. The first is that it covers any points that ionize the air and attract lightning. The second is that it is a dielectric material and serves to separate the charges and protect the the charge collected by the plate from neutralizing with opposite charges in the air around it. So the insulation should have as high a dielectric constant as possible. All connections and conductors between the elevated plate and your device need to be insulated for the same reason. The same goes for all connections and conductors between your device and your ground rod/plate connection. I found that insulating the top 3 feet of the ground rod or wire going to the plate in the soil also helps because the charged particles will also penetrate the ground to that depth.

The reason Tesla says in his patent to use a "highly polished or amalgamated plate" is so the dielectric insulation will make the best contact possible and therefore attain the best charge transfer.

In metallurgy, amalgamated means mixed with mercury. Mercury has some interesting properties in regard to Tesla's work. Vacuum tubes were developed at one time to use a pool of mercury to conduct high voltage, high current electricity in only one direction - a vacuum diode, if you will - that could handle 30kW of DC power. Tesla also used mercury in many of his circuit controllers for the same reason. Search "mercury arc rectifiers" for more info.[/font]

If I remember correctly, John Bedini said to use thoriated tungsten welding rods for the cores of the coils in the SSG.

There were at one time vacuum tubes produced that used a radioactive material. I think it was RCA who produced them for use in high power radio transmitters. There might still be a few around but they would cost an arm and a leg I imagine.

Page 13 of the following PDF document shows, essentially, a Tesla radiant energy collector using strontium rather than cosmic rays.
http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~blanchar/res/BlanchardKorea.pdf[/url]

[/font]You can buy thorium on eBay I think. And the following site has radioactive materials and handling equipment: http://www.unitednuclear.com/

More info in the attachment.

I am using right now a carbon fiber sheet that i bought on Ebay, and i was thinking about laminating it, and what you said about the dielectic on the antenna was interesting becouse i haven´t really thought much about it.
I am glad that you brought this to my attention, so i am going to do my best in insulating the antenna, and i will also try to insulate the earth side too.
I was under the impression that the system should be insulated becouse of leakage.

I have thought about buying some Uraninite from UN, but i am not sure that they will ship to Europe, and if they do, it will probably cost $100 in shipping.

On ebay you can get what the hell you are looking for. I remember a few years ago when i was into electrochemistry and stuff, i bought a whole bunch of exotic chemical reagents from ebay, so i would not be surprised if you wanted to buy guns, drugs, or radioactive nuclear waste you could get it from ebay.

Thanks for the feedback guys!

[pomodoro]

Dear Antimony, if you dont wanna get nowhere really fast, then don't waste with the thoriated tungsten , uranite and all that crap.  I have tested pure thorium and uranium salts in a my modern version of Marie Curie's  air conductivity apparatus and they are exceedingly weak, even in a field of 8000V/20cm.  They are not the faintest shadow of Radium.

Oh, laminating your ion collector is very , very , very .....something.

[antimony]

Ok, I just have to explain that i thought about laminating the paper antenna to keep it dry when i put it up, and when he wrote that it was important that the antenna should be insulated, i just mentioned it. I didnt think that it was any genious idea on my part.

The truth is that i dont even know a fraction of what knowledge you guys have about this stuff, so I just have to let you know that so that you dont think i am passing myself of as something i dont want you to think of me.

I dont have the money for exploring thorium or anything like that right now at the moment, but it would be interesting at some time to learn more about. 

I appreciate you taking your time. Thanks.