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Overunity Machines Forum



Any one tried to use Adams idea to get over sticky spot?

Started by Craigy, November 23, 2006, 07:40:25 PM

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Craigy

here is my shielding attempt , more is on the torbay thread

Craigy
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CLaNZeR

Nice work Craigy, look forward to seeing more.

Have been playing with different stepper motors attached to wheels the last few days and my conclusion is that they need too much torque to be of any use in charging the Cap enough to then energise another coil.
If I had a bigger, heavier wheel then I think the force would be very different, but I am gonna stick to me little wheels for now while I am playing as scaling up will take too much time.

I am still thinking also on the lines of the two cogs idea for experiementing and appreciatte what people are saying about the shield being attracted to the static magnet, but also am thinking that if the spacing is correct then the neutral line idea kicks in maybe?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1757.0.html


Regards

Sean.

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Craigy

You idea is novel, and i believe that attraction to shield is not a bad thing.
The neutral spot is hard to get at when we are talking about just 2 flat magnets with a plate in the middle. Here we have the shield entering a highly fluctuating magnetic field. There are multiple magnets each with a different field and added to that they are mounted in a circle best i can do on my torbay is an approximation.

But for all of that, if we introduce attraction , or introduce a shield to disrupt the normal flow of events at the right moment, even for a fraction of an instant, this might be the solution.

I have an idea , that is related in part to the torbay shield. Now as the rotor gets to top dead centre where the sticky spot is, we show it some shield, That Shield will attract the rotor to it. My theory is, if you do that action quickly enough, by having the shield sprung so that it returns to its parking spot , the disruption in the sticky mecanics will be such as to break the sticky spot.

Am i making sense or going crazy?

Craig
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CLaNZeR

Craigy mate, your as Crazy as me, but I think that is a good thing!!!!!!

I like the idea and if you had seen some of the things I have been doing latley you would laugh ya socks off, but my Kidz know I am mad and deep down I reckon they like it!!!

Keep up the good work, oneday we might just hit on summit by accident!

Regards

Sean.


Quote from: Craigy on December 02, 2006, 09:13:32 AM
You idea is novel, and i believe that attraction to shield is not a bad thing.
The neutral spot is hard to get at when we are talking about just 2 flat magnets with a plate in the middle. Here we have the shield entering a highly fluctuating magnetic field. There are multiple magnets each with a different field and added to that they are mounted in a circle best i can do on my torbay is an approximation.

But for all of that, if we introduce attraction , or introduce a shield to disrupt the normal flow of events at the right moment, even for a fraction of an instant, this might be the solution.

I have an idea , that is related in part to the torbay shield. Now as the rotor gets to top dead centre where the sticky spot is, we show it some shield, That Shield will attract the rotor to it. My theory is, if you do that action quickly enough, by having the shield sprung so that it returns to its parking spot , the disruption in the sticky mecanics will be such as to break the sticky spot.

Am i making sense or going crazy?

Craig
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Craigy

Hi Clanzer, its going to be one of those weekends when the mother in law comes around and i can't complete what i so desperately want to complete.
So far i have started to test other materials as "Shields" although i don't like that word, i think standard steel will do the job i want. The Shields from the harddrives were used to test the concept, since if that material didn't work then nothing would probably work.


Let me elaborate on my theory of why attraction is not a bad thing, when using a repulsion motor.
We all know that when you get to the end of the track the rotor bounces off of the sticky spot.
Assuming the the rotor is made up of many magnets the ones on the leading edge are the ones that encounter the sticky spot. The ones behind are all happily following on behind and as far as they are concerned they are still following the down hill gradient in flux. Like water down a water fall.
Now at the end of the line, or last bit of track or last repelling magnet we encounter the "Wall" that begins to brake the magnet and finally bounce it back the way it came.
If that braking force is 100% of the kinetic energy obtained in  the run up to the sticky spot then if we reduce the braking by 10% we would get Rotation! i.e. Flashing a bit of leg ..er i mean steel at the rotor would produce moments of attraction which in turn would reduce the braking efficiency

The Law of Magnetics according to Craigy , This was a thought experiment.

But i like it LOL




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