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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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WhatIsIt

Impressive, you certainly invested lots of time in that construct, and had result.

Cheers!

rickfriedrich

You'll have to read what I wrote. The point was that I didn't spend any time setting it up. I just put the coils out without proper spacing, etc. However, some of the students at my meeting spent several hours connecting the little capacitors and LEDs to each coil as well as winding 10 of the mid-size coils. Anyway, if I set it up right then I can get the input down to zero and can actually load the primary with more loads. Of course I can also put coils above and below. The 18 students at the meeting could see that I had one coil underneath, and I had a board where I could have added more on top. But we already ran out of coils with capacitors on them.

Quote from: WhatIsIt on June 13, 2019, 09:16:40 PM
Impressive, you certainly invested lots of time in that construct, and had result.

Cheers!

gyulasun

Hi Rick,

Thanks for coming in this thread too. 

I would like you to consider member Itsu's recent measurement results and comments on the input power
to the transmitter circuit and the output power the LED bulbs got from the receiver units. 

https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg534383/#msg534383
https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg534479/#msg534479
https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg534479/#msg534479

The point is: even though you can use quasi hundreds of receiver units loaded with red or white LEDs 
you do not know what the actual power levels are that the LED bulbs really consume.  Your hinting at
"bright 3W LED bulbs" is not enough at all,  even for estimating roughly the actual power levels involved.

This is what you wrote in this respect:   
   "The loads off the 10 bigger coils (one not shown) were bright 3W LED bulbs, and another one was powered 
below off a regular coil which isn't seen in the picture. So I had at least 11 of these big LEDs and almost 70 small 
LEDs powered. I also added ferrite coils with these bigger bulbs that brought the input power down without 
lowering the loads. So for 80ma at 12V that was an okay demonstration.  It's the 1 watt challenge."     

You also wrote: " These bigger coils naturally have higher Q which translates to higher actual gain.
And yes, resonance IS A GAIN. Don't let people fool you about that." 

Yes I agree, bigger coils wound with thick wire and with favorable OD/length ratio can have higher Q .
But you need to clarify what you mean on gain: voltage, current, power, energy gain? 

I would agree with voltage or current gain in resonant LC circuits. 

If you claim power (or energy) gain too, then you would need to demonstrate it by measurements.
"Don't let people fool you about that."

You also wrote:

"Anyway, I'll post another video of all the coils running when I get caught up with other pressing matters."

Please, would you consider to measure only the 9 (or 10) big receiver coils output when they drive the bright
white LED bulbs at a measured input power to the gate driver?    I do not know your actual receiver circuits,  whether you use diode bridges to rectify the AC voltage and whether you drive the LEDs with DC.
This latter case would help much to check LED DC currents easily and the DC voltage levels across them.

I know these measurements are time consuming.   Also, the use of diode bridges would cause inherent power
loss in the receiver units but this loss can be estimated if you already know the DC current via the LED bulbs.   

Thanks,
Gyula
(Edited for a better text format)

itsu


Gyula,

i guess the last of your 3 links above should be another one like this one perhaps?:

https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg534508/#msg534508


Anyway,  indeed impressive pictures from rickfriedrich, impressive concerning the amount of coils used that is.
Not so for the presented (measurement, circuit) data, which is almost non existing, but this probably was not
in scope for this post.

Itsu


seaad

The power output obtained
is in direct proportion to the amount of hidden cables.
:) :) :)